Requests: Cultural Protocols - CPs

[ReformedEndralon]

Good evening,

Finally got around to voting in new Cultural Protocols for Solentia for Moderator approval - http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=681795

Did this ever get considered?

I might have missed this but I’ll review and get back to you.

I did try (original post here here - viewtopic.php?f=11&t=8606&p=183527&hilit=solentia#p183527) to enact a new CP for Solentia, but it never seemed to get considered fully, which led to a degree of disillusionment. However having picked up a book on the Taliban recently I may go back and try a again.

[Auditorii]

I did try (original post here here - viewtopic.php?f=11&t=8606&p=183527&hilit=solentia#p183527) to enact a new CP for Solentia, but it never seemed to get considered fully, which led to a degree of disillusionment. However having picked up a book on the Taliban recently I may go back and try a again.

The issue with this Cultural Protocol is its incredibly cluttered and breaks the sort've "norm" for Cultural Protocols when it comes to approval basis. I'll speak with Greek and get his thoughts however.

[Polites]

Cultural Protocol update for Zardugal: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=694400
Differences from current version:

* An overall shift in focus away from the Byzantine element (which remains present) towards more focus on Esperanto as a language;
* Removed the use of the Greek alphabet for Esperanto;
* Augustans renamed to Zards, now defined as Esperanto-speaking Southern and Eastern Europeans, and the Augustan language renamed as the Zardic language;
* Reduction in all existing ethnic categories (except for Other) to make room for ethnic groups from the FBCs once part of Zardugal's colonial empire;
* Mallan redefined as Ethiopian for ease of use;
* Orderist Hosianism removed;
* Additional 10% reduction in Hosianism;
* Daenism and Ruhi Faith introduced;
* Decline in Ahmadism and increase in Irreligious.

Justification for these changes:
* The primary goal is to make Zardic culture easier to understand and more accessible. Now it is based partially on a pre-modern empire speaking a constructed language that has nothing to do with it. This proposal shifts the focus on Esperanto, and establishes a culture taking its features into account. The in game justification is the recently RPd condemnation of "Augustan nationalism", itself justified based on the fact that the word "Augustan" itself was not use as self-identifier until the 34th century, and that only the southern third of Zardugal was part of the Augustan Empire;
* It is also difficult to find Byzantine imagery for anything modern, hence the broader definition that allows anything from Southern and Eastern Europe, as well as from other places;
* The current CP does not take into account Zardugal's colonial empire. Its existence has been RPd a bit recently, and it stands to reason quite a few people from the former colonies would live in Zardugal. This is also for ease of use - as an international language the Esperanto movement includes people from every continent and many different ethnic and cultural backgrounds;
* Orderist Hosianism has not been RPd for a while, and I've RPd its "demise" as well as the emergence of the Ruhi Faith in its stead in Zardugal; the removal of Orderism counts for 5% of the decline in overall Hosianism;
* The rest of the decline in Hosianism and the reduction in the number of Ahmadis is to make room for Daenism - the native religion of a big part of the Zardic colonial empire, and also for a slight increase in Irreligion due to the relatively more secular RP in Zardugal in recent times.

[GreekIdiot]

I did try (original post here here - viewtopic.php?f=11&t=8606&p=183527&hilit=solentia#p183527) to enact a new CP for Solentia, but it never seemed to get considered fully, which led to a degree of disillusionment. However having picked up a book on the Taliban recently I may go back and try a again.

The issue with this Cultural Protocol is its incredibly cluttered and breaks the sort've "norm" for Cultural Protocols when it comes to approval basis. I'll speak with Greek and get his thoughts however.

Just a quick note on this one, we will not be accepting the proposed CP. The reason: it does not offer the necessary clarity and cohesion that CPs should offer, in being tools for players to understand the context of the nation they're in. The player is more than welcome to rejoin Solentia and give it another go, anytime.

@Polites, your request is well received, your justifications seem very on point and the CP is beautifully organised. I'll get Aud's thoughts on this - as these are still my early days and culture needs a backdrop of knowledge I do not yet possess - and we will get back to you as soon as possible.

[Auditorii]

Cultural Protocol update for Zardugal: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=694400
Differences from current version:

* An overall shift in focus away from the Byzantine element (which remains present) towards more focus on Esperanto as a language;
* Removed the use of the Greek alphabet for Esperanto;
* Augustans renamed to Zards, now defined as Esperanto-speaking Southern and Eastern Europeans, and the Augustan language renamed as the Zardic language;
* Reduction in all existing ethnic categories (except for Other) to make room for ethnic groups from the FBCs once part of Zardugal's colonial empire;
* Mallan redefined as Ethiopian for ease of use;
* Orderist Hosianism removed;
* Additional 10% reduction in Hosianism;
* Daenism and Ruhi Faith introduced;
* Decline in Ahmadism and increase in Irreligious.

Justification for these changes:
* The primary goal is to make Zardic culture easier to understand and more accessible. Now it is based partially on a pre-modern empire speaking a constructed language that has nothing to do with it. This proposal shifts the focus on Esperanto, and establishes a culture taking its features into account. The in game justification is the recently RPd condemnation of "Augustan nationalism", itself justified based on the fact that the word "Augustan" itself was not use as self-identifier until the 34th century, and that only the southern third of Zardugal was part of the Augustan Empire;
* It is also difficult to find Byzantine imagery for anything modern, hence the broader definition that allows anything from Southern and Eastern Europe, as well as from other places;
* The current CP does not take into account Zardugal's colonial empire. Its existence has been RPd a bit recently, and it stands to reason quite a few people from the former colonies would live in Zardugal. This is also for ease of use - as an international language the Esperanto movement includes people from every continent and many different ethnic and cultural backgrounds;
* Orderist Hosianism has not been RPd for a while, and I've RPd its "demise" as well as the emergence of the Ruhi Faith in its stead in Zardugal; the removal of Orderism counts for 5% of the decline in overall Hosianism;
* The rest of the decline in Hosianism and the reduction in the number of Ahmadis is to make room for Daenism - the native religion of a big part of the Zardic colonial empire, and also for a slight increase in Irreligion due to the relatively more secular RP in Zardugal in recent times.

We’ll review this and let you know.

[GreekIdiot]

Cultural Protocol update for Zardugal: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=694400
Differences from current version:

* An overall shift in focus away from the Byzantine element (which remains present) towards more focus on Esperanto as a language;
* Removed the use of the Greek alphabet for Esperanto;
* Augustans renamed to Zards, now defined as Esperanto-speaking Southern and Eastern Europeans, and the Augustan language renamed as the Zardic language;
* Reduction in all existing ethnic categories (except for Other) to make room for ethnic groups from the FBCs once part of Zardugal's colonial empire;
* Mallan redefined as Ethiopian for ease of use;
* Orderist Hosianism removed;
* Additional 10% reduction in Hosianism;
* Daenism and Ruhi Faith introduced;
* Decline in Ahmadism and increase in Irreligious.

Justification for these changes:
* The primary goal is to make Zardic culture easier to understand and more accessible. Now it is based partially on a pre-modern empire speaking a constructed language that has nothing to do with it. This proposal shifts the focus on Esperanto, and establishes a culture taking its features into account. The in game justification is the recently RPd condemnation of "Augustan nationalism", itself justified based on the fact that the word "Augustan" itself was not use as self-identifier until the 34th century, and that only the southern third of Zardugal was part of the Augustan Empire;
* It is also difficult to find Byzantine imagery for anything modern, hence the broader definition that allows anything from Southern and Eastern Europe, as well as from other places;
* The current CP does not take into account Zardugal's colonial empire. Its existence has been RPd a bit recently, and it stands to reason quite a few people from the former colonies would live in Zardugal. This is also for ease of use - as an international language the Esperanto movement includes people from every continent and many different ethnic and cultural backgrounds;
* Orderist Hosianism has not been RPd for a while, and I've RPd its "demise" as well as the emergence of the Ruhi Faith in its stead in Zardugal; the removal of Orderism counts for 5% of the decline in overall Hosianism;
* The rest of the decline in Hosianism and the reduction in the number of Ahmadis is to make room for Daenism - the native religion of a big part of the Zardic colonial empire, and also for a slight increase in Irreligion due to the relatively more secular RP in Zardugal in recent times.

Starting the 48h period (Monday).

[Polites]

Cultural Protocol update for Zardugal: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=694400
Differences from current version:

* An overall shift in focus away from the Byzantine element (which remains present) towards more focus on Esperanto as a language;
* Removed the use of the Greek alphabet for Esperanto;
* Augustans renamed to Zards, now defined as Esperanto-speaking Southern and Eastern Europeans, and the Augustan language renamed as the Zardic language;
* Reduction in all existing ethnic categories (except for Other) to make room for ethnic groups from the FBCs once part of Zardugal's colonial empire;
* Mallan redefined as Ethiopian for ease of use;
* Orderist Hosianism removed;
* Additional 10% reduction in Hosianism;
* Daenism and Ruhi Faith introduced;
* Decline in Ahmadism and increase in Irreligious.

Justification for these changes:
* The primary goal is to make Zardic culture easier to understand and more accessible. Now it is based partially on a pre-modern empire speaking a constructed language that has nothing to do with it. This proposal shifts the focus on Esperanto, and establishes a culture taking its features into account. The in game justification is the recently RPd condemnation of "Augustan nationalism", itself justified based on the fact that the word "Augustan" itself was not use as self-identifier until the 34th century, and that only the southern third of Zardugal was part of the Augustan Empire;
* It is also difficult to find Byzantine imagery for anything modern, hence the broader definition that allows anything from Southern and Eastern Europe, as well as from other places;
* The current CP does not take into account Zardugal's colonial empire. Its existence has been RPd a bit recently, and it stands to reason quite a few people from the former colonies would live in Zardugal. This is also for ease of use - as an international language the Esperanto movement includes people from every continent and many different ethnic and cultural backgrounds;
* Orderist Hosianism has not been RPd for a while, and I've RPd its "demise" as well as the emergence of the Ruhi Faith in its stead in Zardugal; the removal of Orderism counts for 5% of the decline in overall Hosianism;
* The rest of the decline in Hosianism and the reduction in the number of Ahmadis is to make room for Daenism - the native religion of a big part of the Zardic colonial empire, and also for a slight increase in Irreligion due to the relatively more secular RP in Zardugal in recent times.

Starting the 48h period (Monday).

Any update? Thank you

[GreekIdiot]

Approved.

Please place a copy of this approval and the original bill passage in a copy of the updated Cultural Protocol in the "Bills under debate" section.

[Polites]

Could you please change the description of Zardugal in the Cultural Protocols Index from "Esperanto-speaking Byzantine" to just "Esperanto"? The Byzantine element is still present, but much less important now.

You might also want to change the name of that thread.

Thank you!

[GreekIdiot]

Could you please change the description of Zardugal in the Cultural Protocols Index from "Esperanto-speaking Byzantine" to just "Esperanto"? The Byzantine element is still present, but much less important now.

You might also want to change the name of that thread.

Thank you!

Done.