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Bill problem

Postby Captain-Socialist » Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:18 pm

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I've put too bills constitution amendment bills to the vote, in both exactly the same parties with exactly the same number of seats voted for and against, yet only one passed. Why?
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Re: Bill problem

Postby GreekIdiot » Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:21 pm

My guess is that the one without the cabinet proposal inside did not pass?

edit; It's definitely a bug. Will report this to Wouter.
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Re: Bill problem

Postby Captain-Socialist » Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:53 pm

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Re: Bill problem

Postby GreekIdiot » Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:46 pm

I've seen it. I think it's definitely a bug.
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Re: Bill problem

Postby Mr.Yankees » Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:59 pm

This is the same issue I raised not too long ago. Any cabinet proposal that does not pass before an election occurs is defeated. People here told me that it always occurs, which I still think is not true. I do recall seeing cabinet proposals reverting to the debate phase when elections occurred.
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Re: Bill problem

Postby Emunim » Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:37 pm

I've always assumed cabinet proposals failing if elections occur was working as designed, to stop exploits occurring in nations which require the largest party or Head of State to propose the cabinet.

Also Captain Socialist, it's probably worth noting that, even if elections hadn't occurred, the bill would still have failed since the LAN party controlled HoS, who is head of the cabinet in your current set up, and they voted against the bill.
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Re: Bill problem

Postby Captain-Socialist » Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:46 pm

Emunim wrote:Also Captain Socialist, it's probably worth noting that, even if elections hadn't occurred, the bill would still have failed since the LAN party controlled HoS, who is head of the cabinet in your current set up, and they voted against the bill.


I was trying to change that in the bill, Article 14.
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Re: Bill problem

Postby GreekIdiot » Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:55 pm

Emunim wrote:Also Captain Socialist, it's probably worth noting that, even if elections hadn't occurred, the bill would still have failed since the LAN party controlled HoS, who is head of the cabinet in your current set up, and they voted against the bill.


Actually, this could make a fair point.
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Re: Bill problem

Postby Mr.Yankees » Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:40 pm

GreekIdiot wrote:
Emunim wrote:Also Captain Socialist, it's probably worth noting that, even if elections hadn't occurred, the bill would still have failed since the LAN party controlled HoS, who is head of the cabinet in your current set up, and they voted against the bill.


Actually, this could make a fair point.


Nah, that's not the problem (even though it could have been if elections had not occurred). The deadline for the proposal is March and the elections occurred in February of that same year. I'm fairly certain that it was the problem/mechanism I previously mentioned.
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Re: Bill problem

Postby Khaler » Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:59 am

Emunim wrote:Also Captain Socialist, it's probably worth noting that, even if elections hadn't occurred, the bill would still have failed since the LAN party controlled HoS, who is head of the cabinet in your current set up, and they voted against the bill.


I think that is exactly why it happened. Socialists proposal had peoples shogun in the proposal and he voted against it. We used to have hos sitting in the cabinet in Darnussia so everyone could be able to propose a coalition, but the largest party (holding the presidency 99% of the time) had to agree on it. "This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline." and if party controlling the Shogun voted against it, it will not pass.

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