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Re: Nation/Region/City/Newspaper Renaming Requests

Postby ChengherRares1 » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:01 pm

Aquinas wrote:Perhaps it would be possible to find some middle-ground and compromise between the two sides.

Would Moderation consider giving Chengher another chance to try to demonstrate that the regime he is RPing has the backing of important power structures in Hulstria, and has the support or at least acquiescence of a significant proportion of Hulstria's population?

Brain-storming off the top of my head here...

(a) Maybe the "gay supremacism" ideology could be re-framed as a kind of "male supremacism" or androcracy, based around the privileging of men over women, and with gay men forming the elite tier of an all-male ruling class. At least to some extent, this is actually what Chengher is doing already (see, for example this bill, which privileges both heterosexual and homosexual men over women). Such a regime might plausibly claim the support of a significant section of the male population. Through its ideology/indoctrination, it might also be able to persuade a proportion of the female population that this system is in the general interests of a stable and healthy society. Possibly this ideology rode to popularity partly on the back of a massive backlash against gender equality and feminism?

(b) Chengher could do more to try to show how the regime is dealing with its opponents and potential opponents. Probably through a mixture of coercion and co-option.

(c) Chengher could do some RP to demonstrate how the establishment and the security services, or at least a significant faction within those, has come to see the regime as being both in its interests and in the interests of Hulstria. Perhaps they believe this new ideology is the wave of the future and the only way to escape the instability/decline of the past? Maybe some important figures in the army are passionately committed to the regime's ideology?

(d) Chengher could do some more RP to demonstrate Hulstria is not a utopia where everybody is in love with the regime, but that in fact some sections of Hulstria are opposed - perhaps strongly opposed - to the ruling regime. To be fair, Chengher has already acknowledged this in some of his news posts, although (at least for my liking, anyway) more detail/background in this area would be helpful. Are there any particular social, ethnic, religious or ideological/political groups which are opposed to the regime? For that matter, are there groups which were unhappy with the previous regime, and see the new regime as a welcome change? This is the kind of thing I would encourage Chengher to have a think about and address in some of his news posts.

The points I have made are just suggestions, but the thrust of what I am getting at here is that what Chengher could try to do is (1) demonstrate there is a wider base of support for the regime and (2) do more to acknowledge in his RP that there is opposition to the regime within Hulstria. If he is willing to make an effort at that, I hope Moderation would give him another chance.


Thank you for clarification, admins should have said what you said here but meh. You helped me a lot thank you! I will do your way. Thank you again, you helped me, this was the issue, admins just did not bothered giving this thing.
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Re: Nation/Region/City/Newspaper Renaming Requests

Postby ChengherRares1 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:03 pm

At least I can have a rename from admins? Temporary. The New Empire of Gao-Soto and Hulstria / Das Neue Reich von Gao-Soto und Hulstria / ザー・ニュー・エンパイアー・オブ・ガウ・ソートー・アンド・ハルストリア / Zā nyū enpaiā Obu gau sōtō Ando harusutoria
Please admins, at least this, this better reflects cultural backgrounds, monarch exists, a regime exists, and country name with languages checked, so everything is good to go. This will be the name until enough cultural background is met for HSP to change it in The New Gay Empire of Gao-Soto and Hulstria


The New Empire of Gao-Soto and Hulstria / Das Neue Reich von Gao-Soto und Hulstria / ザー・ニュー・エンパイアー・オブ・ガウ・ソートー・アンド・ハルストリア / Zā nyū enpaiā Obu gau sōtō Ando harusutoria
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Re: Nation/Region/City/Newspaper Renaming Requests

Postby Rogue » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:21 pm

ChengherRares1 wrote:At least I can have a rename from admins? Temporary. The New Empire of Gao-Soto and Hulstria / Das Neue Reich von Gao-Soto und Hulstria / ザー・ニュー・エンパイアー・オブ・ガウ・ソートー・アンド・ハルストリア / Zā nyū enpaiā Obu gau sōtō Ando harusutoria
Please admins, at least this, this better reflects cultural backgrounds, monarch exists, a regime exists, and country name with languages checked, so everything is good to go. This will be the name until enough cultural background is met for HSP to change it in The New Gay Empire of Gao-Soto and Hulstria


The New Empire of Gao-Soto and Hulstria / Das Neue Reich von Gao-Soto und Hulstria / ザー・ニュー・エンパイアー・オブ・ガウ・ソートー・アンド・ハルストリア / Zā nyū enpaiā Obu gau sōtō Ando harusutoria


You need to pass a bill with this name in it for us to be able to change it. Please propose and pass a bill and post the link in here
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Re: Nation/Region/City/Newspaper Renaming Requests

Postby Doc » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:04 pm

Due to weird translation when fed back into the Google Translate program, the name of Badara now means Hereditary diseases. So I simplified and proposed a new bill. It will pass unanimously.

Here is the Bill

http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... 2&vote=yes

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Re: Nation/Region/City/Newspaper Renaming Requests

Postby Comrade_Helix » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:51 pm

While this might be a bit of a stretch, I'm hoping the former openness of Hawu (which I hope RP it's way out of this hell hole and back to Ikradon) will allow me to rename in English but if we have to translate into that god awful ancient Egyptian then ok.

New name: Federal Socialist Republic of Hawu Mumenhes
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Re: Nation/Region/City/Newspaper Renaming Requests

Postby Rogue » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:32 am

Comrade_Helix wrote:While this might be a bit of a stretch, I'm hoping the former openness of Hawu (which I hope RP it's way out of this hell hole and back to Ikradon) will allow me to rename in English but if we have to translate into that god awful ancient Egyptian then ok.

New name: Federal Socialist Republic of Hawu Mumenhes


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Re: Nation/Region/City/Newspaper Renaming Requests

Postby pigeonvalley » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:34 pm

Could the name for Telamon be changed to "Tælmörengar Ríkið (Telamonese State)" as per this bill?

It has not passed yet, but there is pretty much no possibility of it not passing.
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Re: Nation/Region/City/Newspaper Renaming Requests

Postby Auditorii » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:48 pm

Pontesi to Rei Publicae Pontesiae (Pontesi)

Passed here: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=596132
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Re: Nation/Region/City/Newspaper Renaming Requests

Postby Rogue » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:25 pm

pigeonvalley wrote:Could the name for Telamon be changed to "Tælmörengar Ríkið (Telamonese State)" as per this bill?

It has not passed yet, but there is pretty much no possibility of it not passing.


Done but instead of Telamese State behind it i put (Telamon) behind it since its required via the game rules
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Re: Nation/Region/City/Newspaper Renaming Requests

Postby Rogue » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:25 pm

Auditorii wrote:Pontesi to Rei Publicae Pontesiae (Pontesi)

Passed here: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=596132


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