RP Law Query Thread

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RP Law Query Thread

Postby Polites » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:10 am

6. e. It is possible to create RP laws which act as secondary rules which players are required to follow in character only, laws that require players to act or vote in a specific way are not permitted. They are laws which are only referenced in the bill description and not enforced by the game mechanics.

i.To create an RP law you must: pass it through your nation's legislature with either a simple majority of seats if it is a regular law or a ⅔ majority of seats if it is a constitutional law and reference it clearly in your nation’s “Bills under debate” section. To query a new RP law’s legality a user should post on the RP Law Query Thread. It is recommended though not required for an RP Law to be clearly labelled as such.
ii.To overturn or abolish an RP law you must pass a bill with a simple majority which explicitly mentions which law you are scrapping and provides a link to the original law. It is recommended though not required to post a link to the bill on the RP Law Dismissal Thread.
iii.An RP law must not contradict game mechanics or the game rules, or force users to act a certain way OOC. Additionally they cannot ban types of parties (without considerable RP justification) or users. RP Laws must also not force users to vote in a particular way.
iv.Moderation reserves the right to declare any RP law invalid in exceptional circumstances.
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Re: RP Law Query Thread

Postby stuntmonkey » Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:44 pm

This is not about a specific RP law's legality but can you clarify something for me in regards to the legality of constitutional RP laws.

It states in point (i) above that in order to pass, a constitutional RP law requires a 2/3s majority of seats in the legislature.

However, in point (ii) it states that to overturn or abolish an RP law you must pass a bill with a simple majority. Does this simple majority apply for overturning constitutional RP laws too? Or do you actually require a 2/3s majority to make that kind of change?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: RP Law Query Thread

Postby Polites » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:18 am

A simple majority is enough to overturn any RP law. The idea is that RP laws should be hard to introduce and easy to repeal.
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Re: RP Law Query Thread

Postby Bachelot » Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:57 am

Polites wrote:A simple majority is enough to overturn any RP law. The idea is that RP laws should be hard to introduce and easy to repeal.


If you're passing a law to abolish a constitutional RP law, then you're not just abolishing a law, you're changing the nation's actual constitutional arrangement. Shouldn't that generally require a 2/3rds constitutional majority?

Also, abolishing a RP law is hardly hassle-free, because to do that (besides registering on the forum, which not everyone does) you have to go to the trouble of posting it on the RP Law Dismissal thread (which I can't honestly see the point of...).
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Re: RP Law Query Thread

Postby FPC » Sat Apr 28, 2018 3:12 pm

Bachelot wrote:
Polites wrote:A simple majority is enough to overturn any RP law. The idea is that RP laws should be hard to introduce and easy to repeal.


If you're passing a law to abolish a constitutional RP law, then you're not just abolishing a law, you're changing the nation's actual constitutional arrangement. Shouldn't that generally require a 2/3rds constitutional majority?

Also, abolishing a RP law is hardly hassle-free, because to do that (besides registering on the forum, which not everyone does) you have to go to the trouble of posting it on the RP Law Dismissal thread (which I can't honestly see the point of...).


You make a good point about the procedure for overturning constitutional laws, and it's something we will look in to. A problem with constitutional laws requiring a two-thirds majority is that it may occasionally be hard to determine what is a regular RP law and what is a constitutional law. But I will certainly have a think about this.

Secondly, we ask users to post on the dismissal thread for two reasons. 1- So that detailed and inventive RP laws that have had loads of work put into them do not get repealed without a second thought. 2- So that there is concrete evidence of what laws are active ie.if a player says "that law isn't valid as we repealed it" Moderation could look on the dismissal thread and check to see if the law had been repealed, basically it's just extra evidence which makes everyone's lives easier in the long run.
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Re: RP Law Query Thread

Postby House Spencer » Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:31 pm

http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=576058

"Legislation excluding foreign policy matters will only be effective within the territory of the Free Republic due to the autonomy of the regions."

Is this legit? If so, how do we set the laws for the other regions?
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Re: RP Law Query Thread

Postby cm9777 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:47 am

House Spencer wrote:http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=576058

"Legislation excluding foreign policy matters will only be effective within the territory of the Free Republic due to the autonomy of the regions."

Is this legit? If so, how do we set the laws for the other regions?


As Far as I'm aware. Its fair enough to do this as the New Jelbanian Nation is a Confederation. To set laws for other regions, you'd have to pass an rp bill that reversed this.
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Re: RP Law Query Thread

Postby Sisyphus » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:23 am

Also bear in mind, @House Spencer, the historical context for this. The RP law takes into account that Deltaria has political and economic influence over the Southern Khanate state and Vanuku the same influence over the (northern) Jelbek Khaganate states as per the agreement reached at the Rklemjistad Summit .

Any attempts to overturn this agreement would obviously have RP repercussions with those two countries who have invested heavily in the respective areas.
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Re: RP Law Query Thread

Postby House Spencer » Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:19 pm

@cm9777 So how do we see what the laws for the other regions are at the moment? Who controls those regions?

@Sisyphus Jelbania has been reunified so I'm not sure that applies now.
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Re: RP Law Query Thread

Postby Kubrick » Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:32 pm

It still applies as stipulated by the treaty.
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