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Re: Questions & Requests

Postby SCI » Wed May 08, 2013 10:43 pm

meisme wrote:
SCI wrote:I'm assuming the word "kindly" before "fuck off" doesn't ease the offence any.

Perhaps now we can discuss how forum members are ganging up on Ikradon?

You know, their refusal to RP, is whats wrong with the game today. I truly don't like players who refuse to RP at all because they wish to be the "perfect nation that never has any problems". Well shit, if you want to go do that, then hop your lazy ass on NationStates and create your own country. Go waste precious bandwidth there and kindly get the fuck off of Particracy.

Aint nobody got time for that foolishness!


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Well, their isn't really you can do with how people view your nation and what it does. Free speech and what not. However, the swearing might warrant something, but I doubt it.


If normal members can't reply to these, then moderation can delete this if need be.


I don't care how people view Ikradon. But I do care when bored forum members decide to have a little fun by poking and prodding a non-RP nation.... trying to force it into RP, or simply fill it up with some forum friends to help troll it.
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Re: Questions & Requests

Postby Afrocentric » Wed May 08, 2013 11:33 pm

SCI wrote:I don't care how people view Ikradon. But I do care when bored forum members decide to have a little fun by poking and prodding a non-RP nation.... trying to force it into RP, or simply fill it up with some forum friends to help troll it.


And how am I ganging up on Ikradon? I'm simply pointing out the facts; you all refuse to RP for some reason and while that is your right, I just disagree with it.
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Re: Questions & Requests

Postby SCI » Thu May 09, 2013 2:58 am

J94CK wrote:I just don't see why me being a conservative party in Ikradon is such a problem, I feel like I'm doing something wrong simply by being there.
Isn't the whole idea of this game based on competing in multi-party democracies and debating issues?


We have gladly worked with parties across the entire spectrum. For a long time, Ikradon was a two-coalition state with a socialist coalition and a centre-right capitalist coalition, and if it wouldn't shock you too much, I was actually in the centre-right coalition back then. I used to RP as a capitalist party, and we had actually deregulated a good portion of the economy and changed the name to something less socialist.

I don't mind capitalist or conservative parties, we have had them in Ikradon before.

However, your party took things much farther than any of them. You decided to join our nation, which was not one big happy unanimous family of socialist agreement, by the way, and immediately lumped us all in as some socialist gang. You decided to be some kind of wolf in the hen-house to stir up trouble and, to make things even more disgraceful, you made your entire foray into Ikradon into a mocking charade for your friends on the forum, looking to deride the non-international-RP "silly leftist" nation that likes to internally role-play a socialist-style nation.

And even though it is supposedly not against the rules, asking your forum buddies to make a party in Ikradon to help you "liberate" the nation is just disgusting and ruins the game. It seriously confuses me how such a thing could not possibly be prohibited by the moderators.
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Re: Questions & Requests

Postby SelucianCrusader » Thu May 09, 2013 9:50 am

I feel really sorry for you, Jack. But I assume that is entirely according to utilitarianism's fundamental set of values: there is no right or wrong, except the "goodness" is letting the minority suffer for the majority.

If we have syndicalist assholes in this game, then we surely need some fascist (not "fascist" but the real thing) to balance it out. Were is RedOctober when you need him?

Obviously though, the Mod's should intervene against this bullying, but looking at past mod team's record of not dealing with bullies and trolls, or valuing RP:ers who really contribute, that would be a positive surprise for me.
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Re: Questions & Requests

Postby Siggon Kristov » Thu May 09, 2013 3:34 pm

J94CK wrote:
SCI wrote:You decided to be some kind of wolf in the hen-house to stir up trouble

I've not aimed to cause trouble, all I've done is to propose free market bills. The reaction to my bill proposals have been extraordinary. The only thing I've done to wind you up is to debate back with you when you all call my party fascist and anti-worker etc. which I am perfectly entitled to do - that's the point of the game.

I have to agree with Jack, here.

SCI wrote:And even though it is supposedly not against the rules, asking your forum buddies to make a party in Ikradon to help you "liberate" the nation is just disgusting and ruins the game. It seriously confuses me how such a thing could not possibly be prohibited by the moderators.

I agree with SCI, here... Jack, you could fight this on your own. Even if you don't win, just keep playing. Someone always has to lose; stop trying to be the winner all the time. It's fun being an opposition party.

J94CK wrote:The thread about Ikradon was to highlight events there. As much as you'd like to think so I have not got countries to unite against you nor have I tried to force RP onto Ikradon. Ege started the condemnation in Telamon, and then got Dranland to do the same. While I was made aware of it, I didn't ask him to do it.

True; there was nothing wrong with the thread. It was other players, not Jack, that decided that they want to force RP onto Ikradon. What Ege did isn't even bad, because it's just nations condemning nations; it's not like Dranland and Telamon are preparing to declare war on Ikradon.

J94CK wrote:Anyway, I've messaged TheNewguy about this issue, I'd like him to sort things out once and for all.

I'm sorry for getting involved with everything else, but this is really why I was replying to your message...
Vald was on a break, and TheNewGuy had increased his activity to compensate for Vald's inactivity.
TheNewGuy will be inactive some time soon, he said, (if he's not already inactive) because of something to do with his personal life; Vald will be compensating for his inactivity.
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Re: Questions & Requests

Postby Valdštejn » Thu May 09, 2013 5:36 pm

Siggon Kristov wrote:Vald was on a break, and TheNewGuy had increased his activity to compensate for Vald's inactivity.
TheNewGuy will be inactive some time soon, he said, (if he's not already inactive) because of something to do with his personal life; Vald will be compensating for his inactivity.


That's true. TheNewGuy will be online and checking in whenever possible, but for the next time he won't be able to do it often. However, I've returned from my break, and if you want to I could deal with this as well.
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Re: Questions & Requests

Postby EgeDoruk » Thu May 09, 2013 6:32 pm

J94CK wrote:
Valdštejn wrote:
Siggon Kristov wrote:Vald was on a break, and TheNewGuy had increased his activity to compensate for Vald's inactivity.
TheNewGuy will be inactive some time soon, he said, (if he's not already inactive) because of something to do with his personal life; Vald will be compensating for his inactivity.


That's true. TheNewGuy will be online and checking in whenever possible, but for the next time he won't be able to do it often. However, I've returned from my break, and if you want to I could deal with this as well.


I don't mind which mod does it so long as it gets dealt with.
I think you should ask for my side of things and the concerns that I have, and likewise ask for their worries too and decide what's wrong and what needs dealing with.
However, it may be better to do this via messages rather than having a public trial on here.

Public Trial and Public Execution, :lol:
Just kidding. This got too ridiculous. All I've done is condemning Ikradon and frankly they don't care because they don't care about our RP but let me tell this, what you did to J94CK was unfair, IMHO
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Re: Questions & Requests

Postby terrojasangel » Fri May 10, 2013 2:34 pm

J94CK wrote:
SCI wrote:
J94CK wrote:
You're criticising me for trying to recruit an ally in Ikradon yet terrojasangel has recruited his friend to play here - as what appears to be a fascist party - yet you've not criticised that at all. In fact, Asamere, when I asked him what his party ideology is, called me 'illiterate' twice. It's really not on.

Anyway, I've messaged TheNewguy about this issue, I'd like him to sort things out once and for all.


I did not recruit him. I told him that I was playing particracy and I showed him the nation that I was playing and he chose to join my nation. We also have agreed with each other to not cooperate in the game in the interest of fairness.

I also don't appreciate continually being called a bully. I've been heavily bullied in real life for several years and it's really affected my mental health. I've been in therapy for a couple years for it. I would never bully anyone. I was simply being heated in character. I hope J94CK could realize that I was engaging in a specific debating style.
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Re: Questions & Requests

Postby Siggon Kristov » Fri May 10, 2013 2:48 pm

terrojasangel wrote:
J94CK wrote:You're criticising me for trying to recruit an ally in Ikradon yet terrojasangel has recruited his friend to play here - as what appears to be a fascist party - yet you've not criticised that at all. In fact, Asamere, when I asked him what his party ideology is, called me 'illiterate' twice. It's really not on.
Anyway, I've messaged TheNewguy about this issue, I'd like him to sort things out once and for all.

I did not recruit him. I told him that I was playing particracy and I showed him the nation that I was playing and he chose to join my nation. We also have agreed with each other to not cooperate in the game in the interest of fairness.
I also don't appreciate continually being called a bully. I've been heavily bullied in real life for several years and it's really affected my mental health. I've been in therapy for a couple years for it. I would never bully anyone. I was simply being heated in character. I hope J94CK could realize that I was engaging in a specific debating style.

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Re: Questions & Requests

Postby meisme » Fri May 10, 2013 3:39 pm

Siggon Kristov wrote:
terrojasangel wrote:
J94CK wrote:You're criticising me for trying to recruit an ally in Ikradon yet terrojasangel has recruited his friend to play here - as what appears to be a fascist party - yet you've not criticised that at all. In fact, Asamere, when I asked him what his party ideology is, called me 'illiterate' twice. It's really not on.
Anyway, I've messaged TheNewguy about this issue, I'd like him to sort things out once and for all.

I did not recruit him. I told him that I was playing particracy and I showed him the nation that I was playing and he chose to join my nation. We also have agreed with each other to not cooperate in the game in the interest of fairness.
I also don't appreciate continually being called a bully. I've been heavily bullied in real life for several years and it's really affected my mental health. I've been in therapy for a couple years for it. I would never bully anyone. I was simply being heated in character. I hope J94CK could realize that I was engaging in a specific debating style.

Ever heard of private messaging? Emotions can go there...

Yes, but the Siggon has no use for those thoughtless thoughts. I kid, I kid ;D
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