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Re: Cultural Protocol Queries (Approvals/Violations/Open)

Postby jamescfm » Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:59 pm

Polites wrote:Cultural protocol update for Selucia: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=634645

Differences from current version:

* some tinkering with the ethnicities, most importantly merging the Cildanians and Hebileans into a Punic/Berber ethnic group;

* 15% decline in Hosianism and increase in Paganism and Irreligious

* separation between the APC and the new Selucian Aurorian Church formalized

* added the Apostolic Church of the Isles (taken from the generic "Other" Hosian)

This would update the cultural protocol of a culturally protected country. As per the Game Rules, there will now be a 48 hour period for players to offer comment on the proposal before it can be approved.
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Re: Cultural Protocol Queries (Approvals/Violations/Open)

Postby jamescfm » Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:01 pm

Polites wrote:Cultural protocol update for Selucia: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=634645

Differences from current version:

* some tinkering with the ethnicities, most importantly merging the Cildanians and Hebileans into a Punic/Berber ethnic group;

* 15% decline in Hosianism and increase in Paganism and Irreligious

* separation between the APC and the new Selucian Aurorian Church formalized

* added the Apostolic Church of the Isles (taken from the generic "Other" Hosian)

Having taken a look at this proposed update, I do not think it is one that Moderation could approve. The ethnic groups changes are not a major problem but the new "Shadari" should be explained somewhere even if it is only a sentence or two. New players are unlikely to be able to make sense of the current description ("Punic & Berber") in terms of naming and language.

The changes to the religious demographics seem far too large to be approved even given the role-play that has been produced in Selucia, especially given the previous cultural protocol update. In combination they would have reduced the Aurorian population from 40% to 5% in a matter of a couple of months and this is in the country that has been the game's historic centre of the religion for some time. Likewise the increase in the Pagan population is too steep in such a short period of time. With that said I do not think the addition of the ACI is a problem.

I would welcome input and feedback from other players (especially Selucian players obviously) but on the face of it I am inclined to say that any more than a couple of percentage points increase in Hosianism at the moment would be too much. Definitely open to hearing some defence of the changes though if you feel you have some supporting role-play that I may have missed.
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Re: Cultural Protocol Queries (Approvals/Violations/Open)

Postby jamescfm » Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:22 pm

http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=634572

Cultural protocol update for Deltaria. No real substantive changes in this, the primary objective was to make the document more accessible for new players in terms of presentation.
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Re: Cultural Protocol Queries (Approvals/Violations/Open)

Postby Auditorii » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:02 pm

jamescfm wrote:http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=634572

Cultural protocol update for Deltaria. No real substantive changes in this, the primary objective was to make the document more accessible for new players in terms of presentation.


I’ll start the 48 hours on this, looks like a relatively fair update for ease of access.
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Re: Cultural Protocol Queries (Approvals/Violations/Open)

Postby Polites » Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:43 am

As the previous update was not accepted, we propose this cultural protocol update for Selucia: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=635298

Differences from current version:

* Cildanians and Hebileans were merged to create the Shadari ethnic group, defined as a Punic-Berber mix; a short description mentions that they primarily speak Latin with small numbers of Punic speakers (to account for the difficulty in using Punic or Phoenician), that their material culture is based on Kabyle Berbers, and that they use Phoenician and Roman names;

* Minor tinkering with the other ethnicities;

* 5% decline in APC membership, on account of ongoing persecution and anti-APC measures taken by the government - also leading to a 5% decline in overall Hosian membership;

* Selucian Aurorian Church introduced as a distinct denomination (change from "Constitutionalists" in current version), due to its RPd schism from the APC and communion with the Union of Nordland;

* 6% increase in Pagan and 2% increase in Irreligious, to account for decades of government promotion of both; in particular, 5% increase in Hosio-Pagan, partly due to conversion of Empyrean Temple to a Hosio-Pagan temple;

* Apostolic Church of the Isles introduced as a distinct denomination, taking 4% from "Other";

* Yeudism introduced as a distinct religion, taking 1% from "Other";

* 1% decline in Ahmadism and 3% decline in "Other", due to pro-Pagan and secular government policies.
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Re: Cultural Protocol Queries (Approvals/Violations/Open)

Postby jamescfm » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:40 am

Polites wrote:As the previous update was not accepted, we propose this cultural protocol update for Selucia: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=635298

Differences from current version:

* Cildanians and Hebileans were merged to create the Shadari ethnic group, defined as a Punic-Berber mix; a short description mentions that they primarily speak Latin with small numbers of Punic speakers (to account for the difficulty in using Punic or Phoenician), that their material culture is based on Kabyle Berbers, and that they use Phoenician and Roman names;

* Minor tinkering with the other ethnicities;

* 5% decline in APC membership, on account of ongoing persecution and anti-APC measures taken by the government - also leading to a 5% decline in overall Hosian membership;

* Selucian Aurorian Church introduced as a distinct denomination (change from "Constitutionalists" in current version), due to its RPd schism from the APC and communion with the Union of Nordland;

* 6% increase in Pagan and 2% increase in Irreligious, to account for decades of government promotion of both; in particular, 5% increase in Hosio-Pagan, partly due to conversion of Empyrean Temple to a Hosio-Pagan temple;

* Apostolic Church of the Isles introduced as a distinct denomination, taking 4% from "Other";

* Yeudism introduced as a distinct religion, taking 1% from "Other";

* 1% decline in Ahmadism and 3% decline in "Other", due to pro-Pagan and secular government policies.

This would update the cultural protocol of a culturally protected country. As per the Game Rules, there will now be a 48 hour period for players to offer comment on the proposal before it can be approved.
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Re: Cultural Protocol Queries (Approvals/Violations/Open)

Postby Auditorii » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:34 pm

Auditorii wrote:
jamescfm wrote:http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=634572

Cultural protocol update for Deltaria. No real substantive changes in this, the primary objective was to make the document more accessible for new players in terms of presentation.


I’ll start the 48 hours on this, looks like a relatively fair update for ease of access.


Apologies for the delay, but this is approved.
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Re: Cultural Protocol Queries (Approvals/Violations/Open)

Postby jamescfm » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:13 am

Polites wrote:As the previous update was not accepted, we propose this cultural protocol update for Selucia: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=635298

Differences from current version:

* Cildanians and Hebileans were merged to create the Shadari ethnic group, defined as a Punic-Berber mix; a short description mentions that they primarily speak Latin with small numbers of Punic speakers (to account for the difficulty in using Punic or Phoenician), that their material culture is based on Kabyle Berbers, and that they use Phoenician and Roman names;

* Minor tinkering with the other ethnicities;

* 5% decline in APC membership, on account of ongoing persecution and anti-APC measures taken by the government - also leading to a 5% decline in overall Hosian membership;

* Selucian Aurorian Church introduced as a distinct denomination (change from "Constitutionalists" in current version), due to its RPd schism from the APC and communion with the Union of Nordland;

* 6% increase in Pagan and 2% increase in Irreligious, to account for decades of government promotion of both; in particular, 5% increase in Hosio-Pagan, partly due to conversion of Empyrean Temple to a Hosio-Pagan temple;

* Apostolic Church of the Isles introduced as a distinct denomination, taking 4% from "Other";

* Yeudism introduced as a distinct religion, taking 1% from "Other";

* 1% decline in Ahmadism and 3% decline in "Other", due to pro-Pagan and secular government policies.

Thanks for taking the feedback on board. Despite some reservations, this is approved with that caveat that we probably won't accept any cultural protocol updates that make substantive changes for a while given the relatively quick succession of the last two. Remember to post a clearly titled bill in the debate section with the new cultural protocol and link to the original bill as it was passed as well as this Moderation approval.
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Re: Cultural Protocol Queries (Approvals/Violations/Open)

Postby Pragma » Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:14 pm

http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=636234

Just a little spring cleaning for this cultural protocol. No serious changes in terms of the demography.
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Re: Cultural Protocol Queries (Approvals/Violations/Open)

Postby jamescfm » Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:26 pm

QV73 wrote:http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=636234

Just a little spring cleaning for this cultural protocol. No serious changes in terms of the demography.

Since I assisted in the updating of this cultural protocol, I am going to leave it to Auditorii to make a decision regarding approval.
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