Dankuk Naming Dispute

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Dankuk Naming Dispute

Postby Zongxian » Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:28 pm

This thread is for the attention of both game moderation and wiki admins. This issue is an interplay of both game mechanics and rules as well as wiki activity.

At the core of this is a dispute over the official short name of Dankuk.

In November 2019, the name Kyoseon appears for the time on the forums with the request for a name change in Dankuk (viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4361&p=151860&hilit=kyoseon#p151860). I believe this to have been an error on the part of Moderation as there was no role-play to justify giving Dankuk a completely new short-form name. Kyoseon is not part of the recognized names on the Nation Renaming Guide (viewtopic.php?f=33&t=6364), which only acknowledges Dankuk, Drania, and Dranland.

Through late 2019 going into 2020 the name Kyoseon appears, mostly in use on a thread covering war between Kazulia and the renamed-Dankuk. Three posts in the Dankuk news thread mention Kyoseon. On the wiki, a number of Dankuk-related articles are either renamed or redirected to Kyoseon. One sample of the impact can be seen on the Dankuk article (https://particracy.fandom.com/wiki/Dank ... on=history), which now has its oldest revision dated to 19 October 2019, despite the Dankuk article dating back much further. Even the Dankuk infobox was among the redirects (https://particracy.fandom.com/wiki/Temp ... on=history).

When I returned to the game the Dankuk wiki was a mess. Over the past month I've spent a lot of time cleaning up Dankuk's wiki, getting the history ironed out, and adding in more detail related to both my own past RP and RP documented on the forums. I established a timeline of Dranian history (https://particracy.fandom.com/wiki/Time ... an_History) and for the time period of the Democratic People's Republic of Kyoseon existing, I replaced that name with the Democratic People's Republic of Dankuk on the timeline, aligning everything with the rules surrounding nation naming, RP, and Cultural Protocols.

The player involved with Kyoseon has returned and this has turned into an edit war of back and forth undo edits in addition to a number of other edits to generally anything remotely related to communism throughout Dankuk's history.

A talk page exchange was started between myself and the other player (https://particracy.fandom.com/wiki/Mess ... 0000077048) but no solution has been found and they've suggested involving Moderation.

Was the November 2019 name change an oversight of nation renaming rules? On the wiki is it appropriate or not to replace mention of Kyoseon with Dankuk since that is one of the only three recognized names?
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Re: Dankuk Naming Dispute

Postby jamescfm » Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:38 pm

The same player was warned in relation to other edits on various wiki pages, I told him that reversing edits made by other players was not permitted without good reason and that if he did it again, he would be sanctioned. As it seems he has continued with this, I have simply blocked the player from editing for the moment. As far as I can tell, there is no role-play basis for calling Dankuk "Kyoseon" and any player wishing to do so would need to present some compelling evidence to have it added to the Nation Renaming Guide.
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Re: Dankuk Naming Dispute

Postby neoliberalbad » Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:40 pm

New Cultural Protocols now allow for free use of the term "Kyoseon"

http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=645307
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Re: Dankuk Naming Dispute

Postby Auditorii » Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:17 pm

neoliberalbad wrote:New Cultural Protocols now allow for free use of the term "Kyoseon"

http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=645307


That isn't how updating a name works, the authorized and approved list of name/renaming is located here: viewtopic.php?f=33&t=6364
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