SATO - Seleya and Artania Treaty Organisation

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Re: SATO - Seleya and Artania Treaty Organisation

Postby Darkylightytwo » Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:57 pm

The governement of Baltusia will not declare war or engage itself directly in the war, hoverer, we will allow and support volunteers who believe in the the defense of Zardugal,

For two reason, we are pacifist. but mostly, we had a grave accident and building the new city will cost us a bomb.

Still the government respect the will of its militant to fight against the Jalbans and will give them weaponry. we will not give any chemical or nuclear weapon.

we hope this war to end.

on the name of cooperation and friendship, we will approve this treaty.
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Re: SATO - Seleya and Artania Treaty Organisation

Postby Awesome Bacon » Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:34 pm

We are joining. The bill is in legislation
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Re: SATO - Seleya and Artania Treaty Organisation

Postby Crewe McKinnon » Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:48 pm

We will join. The Kokkai is voting on the bill at the moment.
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Re: SATO - Seleya and Artania Treaty Organisation

Postby J4C0B65 » Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:00 pm

We currently have 5 members and 5 countries ratifying the treaty!
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Re: SATO - Seleya and Artania Treaty Organisation

Postby Darkylightytwo » Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:21 pm

The government of Baltusia denounce the Arrival of Beiteynu in the union, because Beiteynu is not democratic.

In Beiteynu, adult is determined by religion, in other word, if you are not yeudist, you are classed as a minor for al your life and don't have right to vote. just because you don't believe in Yeudism, Citizenship is only given by basis of religion, And the government enact some religious registration of all citizen, so when you are not religious you are atheist and you lose all your right. Worst of it, women like me would have no right to control our own bodies in that country, do I need to say even more, citizen who have sexual relations outside marriage are killed on that country. I don't even the right to criticize the religion.

Beiteynu restrictive laws contredict the treaty who is said to

- Promote Democracy
- Promote Civil Rights and Equality
- Promote Freedom
- Promote Internationalism and Friendship between the nations involved

I am sorry, but Beiteynu as no place in the union until they change their restrictive laws.

we are also very worried about Malivia joining the union. I personnally don't care how a state call himself, social-democracy, communism, capitalism, mixed-market, socialist and etc. what we care, it does those state respect the goal of the organisation, why do you join a organisation that promote civil rights and equality, if you are a religious fascist that promote religious supremacy.



Said by Alicia Luciano-Flores-Delarosa Presidenta of Baltusia.

OOC : it is not personnel on you Malabar1, but your death penalty law are Religious doctrine determines the death penalty, please can you tell how that defend freedom.
Also your law on Slavery are The slave trade is illegal, but slavery is legal as a punishment,
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Re: SATO - Seleya and Artania Treaty Organisation

Postby Batman337 » Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:49 pm

Blessed President,
We here in Bieteynu only discriminate against the Jelbic dogs,And Hosians and Yediu's get the same rights to citizen ship. I repeat those we discriminate against are those the council discriminate against the Jelbic dogs. And if the President had a problem with that we are happy to further discuss it with them. Pope Bennett Richfield the 2nd.
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Re: SATO - Seleya and Artania Treaty Organisation

Postby Darkylightytwo » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:02 pm

Batman337 wrote:Blessed President,
We here in Bieteynu only discriminate against the Jelbic dogs,And Hosians and Yediu's get the same rights to citizen ship. I repeat those we discriminate against are those the council discriminate against the Jelbic dogs. And if the President had a problem with that we are happy to further discuss it with them. Pope Bennett Richfield the 2nd.


That is not the answer I seek, first, we believe the discrimination is wrong, your policies applies the death penalty for capital crimes, and they consider blasphemy as a capital crime, the only logical conclusion are that atheist are being killed for being atheit, yeah freedom of religion is part of the civil rights.

Further more, you recognize discrimination, don't you realize that discrimination is wrong. And I even there is on of your bill which will allow the military to remove candidates and soldier of the basis of who has the most homosexual comportement.

I request the meeting of the union right now, which is Baltusia, Endrelon, Aldegar, Rutania and Rildanor. we have to discuss on what is freedom and what states can be considered as free.
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Re: SATO - Seleya and Artania Treaty Organisation

Postby J4C0B65 » Fri Mar 13, 2015 5:21 pm

This is a grave matter that we need to consider. People should be granted democracy in SATO territory.

We cannot allow slavery, nor death penalty for blasphemy. People in SATO territory have the right to free speech.

However, we must respect the cultures of fellow members. For example Beiteynu is a highly religious country with many religious peoples. We must tolerate their way of life, even though it may be different to ours.
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Re: SATO - Seleya and Artania Treaty Organisation

Postby Darkylightytwo » Fri Mar 13, 2015 6:01 pm

We tolerate the way of life of Yeudists, they are free to believe in their god and live to their religious belief, hoverer, they are not free to impose their religions on others.


I am pleased to see that we cannot accept those laws, and so, those nations must not enter the union without modifying their laws.
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Re: SATO - Seleya and Artania Treaty Organisation

Postby malabar1 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:36 am

Malivia was invited to participate in this organisation by the Parti Conservateur Démocratique of Rildanor. Being concerned over the rise of the aggressive Jelbanians we naturally chose to participate and hope we can work together to create a new international front capable of defending peace.

Malivia retains the right to rule its own land however it sees fit and in accordance with national culture, but of course we are prepared to listen to the concerns of alliance partners as we move forward.
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