Tian’an Conference

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Re: Tian’an Conference

Postby Liu Che/Zhuli » Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:49 am

Topic I: Structure of the International System and the Failure of the World Congress

Qiao Zihao, Counsellor-in-Chief of Yingdala
Thank you, Your Imperial Majesty, for your opening remarks and for your guidance.

Allow us to start tackling the issues of why we are here by starting with the foundations of the order itself. This is the most difficult question to answer and likely one that will upset the most individuals. But, we must speak plainly and frankly. This is a safe space to do so.

Regarding the international order, we have seen profound changes over the past 1,000 years, but one thing remains the same: the great powers lead. Even under the World Congress system, the great powers have been the most influential in governing the order. This was the case throughout history and will likely remain so. It is best if we recognize this reality.

Not only do the great powers tend to manage the globe, but their interests are, frankly, more important. Perhaps not necessarily in an objective or moral sense, at least not always, but their interests have the ability to spark conflict - which breeds death and destruction. I think we can all agree that this is not in the interests of the people.

Therefore, we must establish a system in which we recognize reality - that the great powers matter more - and to minimize conflict. We see the best way to this by creating a commissioner and deputy system - imitating a police force. Each great power will be responsible for managing the peace in a given area. Their interests in these areas will be paramount. The great power can appoint other nations to serve as "deputies" to help manage the region in question. But external great powers to that area should not be allowed any interference whatsoever outside of standard diplomatic relations and commerce. This means no military bases and the like.

Recognizing that under such a system blocs or groups of great powers could form, which is also a natural reality, a new system must be created to adjudicate great power disputes and maintain peace. Since the World Congress has proven incapable of keeping the peace, we would propose a conference system such as this to diplomatically resolve issues. The conference system could, if all else fails, threaten war if great power peace and balance are at risk.

Balance is essential. No single great power should become powerful enough to gobble up the rest. Each of them must be checked by the others. In some cases, each great power may have to drop certain interests for the sake of international peace - the greater interest to all and certainly the greatest interest to the great powers who would be most impacted.

Yingdala has provided the outline for the order, essentially relegating the World Congress as a symbolic and diplomatic body - no resolutions should be enforced except those the great powers choose. We have more granular details to share, but desire to allow others to respond first so that we may adjust our more detailed proposal accordingly.
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Re: Tian’an Conference

Postby alaskancrabpuffs21 » Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:02 am

Dolgavan Special Ambassador Ruslands Dīriķis to the Tian'an Conference

In all due respect, this system that is being proposed does not change anything. Great powers will still go to war, other nations will still be dragged in. Nations and continents and power blocs will be pushed and pulled by opposing factions. Frankly the Dolgavan Empire sees this as an attempt by the so called "Great Power" at carving up the world in their image and to their likeness. Dolgava hereby rejects this offer and we will not be a pawn in anyone else's game.
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Re: Tian’an Conference

Postby GreekIdiot » Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:47 am

Ministers of Finance Elias Keshef and Trade & Industry Lorieta Benowitz from the Homeland State of Beiteynu, arrive.
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Re: Tian’an Conference

Postby colonelvesica » Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:52 am

Hutorian Prime Minister Michael Woodbury

With the greatest of respect Your Excellency what do you define as a "Great Power". You are speaking plainly of carving the world up, making a handful of nations the "most important" and giving them "dominion" over these regions, which bluntly apunds suspicuously like neo-colonialism, something the Heavenly Kingdom was ardently against when outside natuons meddled in Dovani.

Ignoring that for a moment, who are the so called Great Powers, how do you define them, and how does one either become or lose the designation?
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Re: Tian’an Conference

Postby imperialpearl » Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:43 pm

David Nicholson, Vice-President of the Commonwealth of Lodamun
In entering this conference, we [Lodamun] were of the opinion that this would have been an earnest attempt at managing what has, for the better half of millennia, been a multi-polar world. Yet, the proposal as outlined by the Yingdalan Representative, most respectfully, reeks of colonial ambition. The plan as outlined would formalise a feudal system on the global stage; each great power ruling over their corner of the world as their own fiefdoms. Yet, the proposal grants no alternative to those who do not wish to be party to such a system, as it outlines no meaningful way to reform the World Congress to better suit the needs of this new global order. The failure of the World Congress should by no means be an avenue through which we return to the old state of nature, but must instead become the catalysts through which we recommit to its ideas.
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Re: Tian’an Conference

Postby Doc » Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:02 pm

Dame Diane Smith, Her Imperial Majesty's Foreign Minister, Empire of Ananto and Kalistan

Point of Order:

It was Kalistan's understanding that Indrala would open the discussion with a statement then those who were fiated to be major Powers would speak and then the Regional and Supporting states would have the floor for comment. The brochure says

Conference Brochure wrote:The format of the meeting, chaired by Yingdala, will go as follows:
- Yingdala will open each session
- The Major Delegations will provide comments
- The Major Delegations will be given a chance to respond
- The Regional and Supporting Delegations may comment
- The Major Delegations make closing remarks
- Yingdala summarizes the points of agreement and disagreements


Was this not the Order that the Hosts established for this conference? If so we respectfully request that the Chair enforce their own structure. Thank you.
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Re: Tian’an Conference

Postby Liu Che/Zhuli » Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:09 pm

Representatives from Dolgava, Hutori, and Lodamun are kindly requested to follow the protocol established. Their voices will be heard and considered. The protocol is in place to refine views and allow rational discussions.
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Re: Tian’an Conference

Postby _nicolo_02 » Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:15 pm

The Federal Foreign Minister of Dundorf, Stella Bechtholdt, arrives along her team.
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Re: Tian’an Conference

Postby Mbites » Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:22 pm

Foreign Minister Armin Frittkau (Dual-Republic)

While we see the reasoning for the proposal the yingdalans outlined, we cannot agree on such as a system, how can we respect nations sovereignty if we subject them to the security management of someone else? This seems counterintuitive and as the out-of-protocol speakers of the other delegations stated seems 'feudal.' Be that as it may, we agree on the failure of the World Congress to tackle any recent and not-so recent conflicts with success. Right now it is a teethless organization to display a prestige position of certain nations. The Dual-Republic thinks that the World Congress should be reduced to what has been proposed by the yingdalan delegation, a symbolic and diplomatic body: issueing recommendations or resolutions and nothing else, the Security Council per se should be abolished. While we do not expect to find agreement to this radical proposal we at least think that there should be a clear statement against interventionalism, we've seen wars in the spirit of so-called "humanitarianism" which is just rhetorics to justify military action on some sort of moral grounds, which in the spirit of national sovereignty is to be rejected.
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Re: Tian’an Conference

Postby colonelvesica » Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:05 pm

Crown Princess Erika, Princess of Adelia

Your Majesty, Honourable Delegates, allow me to apologize on behalf of our Prime Minister and the Hutorian government for speakingout of turn.
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