The two stateswoman were sitting in the eastern wing of the palace in a marvellous hall which was gifted to Maria Eugenia von Bruckenthal by his husband Franciscus von Bruckenthal de Hayek.
Victoria von Bruckenthal started the discussion with her Lodamese counterpart, Patricia K. Johnson II:
"Our nations are firmly committed to liberty, and we have proven that in several occasions. I would be deeply interested about how these issues are seen in your country, Ms. Johnson. I hope Nova Terra will remain only a historical episode and not a future issue but in Rutania it made a huge impact. I am extremely proud that our citizens strongly backed our initiative to ban Nova Terra in Rutania. Some politicians accused us of hypocrisy because, as they said, we wanted to promote liberty by limiting it. However I see the things pretty different and fortunately the large majority of the people did so. Indeed we want to ensure freedom for everybody but those who abandon the theoretical and institutional framework of liberty cannot be treated within this framework, because they reject this kind of treatment. And I know, Lodamun was accused even on the international arena of hypocrisy and dictatorship. But I hope the Lodamese people know the opinion of the Rutanians and appreciate it.
I am very disappointed that the two commissions instituted by the UNT functioned so ineffectively. As I was informed no real discussion was done in the DIC investigating Lodamun. Some members used some emotional arguments. I think that this shows the weaknesses of their argument. Anyway, I believe these things have passed. However I am a little sceptical about the functioning of the UNT. It was a noble conception but in practice sometimes it stumbles.
Excuse me for bringing up so much topics but everything is inter-connected and we may discuss all these issues and others as well."