Branovice Summit on the Future of the Majatran Association

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Re: Branovice Summit on the Future of the Majatran Association

Postby GreekIdiot » Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:47 am

Kalim Keshef, Deputy Head of the Medinat Department, Homeland State of Beiteynu

Considering the majority of participants wish to tackle the topic of the Majatran Association under a modular approach, perhaps it might be prudent for Deltaria to present a list of potential compartments to the organisation?

Representatives could then note the parts they support; that way we could get a clear picture of who wants what.

Please bare in mind that Beiteynu is reluctant to pursue extended avenues; none of the participants here have any agreement with us in the Yeudish Neset, outside the MSCO, of course, with its security and military essence being outside the scope of the proposed organisation and our discussions here.
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Re: Branovice Summit on the Future of the Majatran Association

Postby Rogue » Sun Mar 03, 2024 2:42 pm

Vladimir Brkić, Deltarian Foreign minister

We could sum up the different avenues to the organization. With different treaties participants could sign or not sign. The main topics would likely be the following:

The Customs Union: "generally defined as a type of trade bloc which is composed of a free trade area with a common external tariff."

The Single Market: "is a type of trade bloc in which most trade barriers have been removed (for goods) with some common policies on product regulation, and freedom of movement of the factors of production (capital and labour) and of enterprise and services. The goal is that the movement of capital, labour, goods, and services between the members is as easy as within them.[1] The physical (borders), technical (standards) and fiscal (taxes) barriers among the member states are removed to the maximum extent possible. These barriers obstruct the freedom of movement of the four factors of production (goods, capital, services, workers)."

Open Borders: "with each nations agreeing to sign a agreement suspending border checks and allowing the free travel of goods and people"

The Political Union: "a union in which member states agree to work together politically, by creating common law that all member states abide by and having a executive for the organization itself."

The Single Currency: "Adopting a common currency for all member states to get a better trading position to the outside."

We look forward to hearing what our fellow participants are interested in. Deltaria is generaly in favor of all.
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Re: Branovice Summit on the Future of the Majatran Association

Postby Rogue » Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:28 pm

Vladimir Brkić, Deltarian Foreign minister

To all those involved, we will be working on a initial proposal regarding the MA soon. This proposal will be put forward here for all to see and comment on. We will take into account everything that has been said.
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Re: Branovice Summit on the Future of the Majatran Association

Postby Rogue » Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:28 pm

Lea Vučinić, Deltarian Foreign minister

As promised, we hereby present a general framework for the recreation of the MA. All the options with (optional) behind it notes the articles we seek to make "joinable but non mandatory", thus allowing member states to pick whether to ratify those parts of the association. All those without optional behind it are the provisions we think all member states should adhere to.

Article 1 "Structure"

-Member states (to be known as the collective assembly) send their nations finance minister to a summit each year to discuss economic developments and possibly discuss alligning economic policy between the different nations (such as interest rates)

-The buildings housing the MA shall be situated in Cahtice, Deltaria, but will be made into a international zone under joint jurisdiction by member states

-The member states elect a Majatran Council every 10 years. The Majatran Council is a 5 member body appointed by the Collective Assembly. It consists of:

The Majatran Councillor for Majatran Affairs

The Majatran Councillor for International Affairs

The Majatran Councillor for Development and Trade

The Majatran Councillor for Financial Policy

The Majatran Councillor for Tourism and Environment

The Majatran Council is appointed for a 10 year term but can be dismissed by a unanimous vote in the collective assembly. The Majatran Council members work on their respective portfolios and have the executive privilige within these portfolios, meaning they can make independent decisions on topics within their portfolio while their budgets and general policies are determined by the MTAP. The Majatran Council elects the MA President, who is also elected for a 10 year term and can be dismissed by the Collective Assembly.

-The MA President visits member states to discuss economic policy and maintain good relations between the different nations


Article 2 "MA Fund" OPTIONAL

-Every member state will contribute 100 million annualy to the MA Fund

-The MA Fund is controlled by the MA Council and its organization. The Council decides where the money is spend

-Money of the MA Fund can only be spend on big infrastructural projects, development projects and humanitarian projects in member states


Article 4 "Free Trade" OPTIONAL

-Member states will ensure free trade between one another

-Member states will not put tarrifs on eachothers products and services

-Member states will put effort into increasing trade between one another

Article 5: Free Movement OPTIONAL
- Citizens of member states are allowed to travel between member states freely, with borders being opened and border checkpoints suspended. Nations can still issue periodical border checks and patrols to scan for illegal aliens but will generally keep their borders open.
- No visas will be required for citizens of member states, only a ID is required.

Article 6: Majatran Transnational Associative Parliament (MTAP) OPTIONAL
-A parliament will be created consisting of 100 members per active member state that can legislate: Environmental policy, trade policy, MA subsidy policy, MA border policy, MA Judicial Policy
-The Parliament is elected using a nationwide FPTP election divided in districts in each member state.
-Political parties are banned for parliament and so are groupings, members have to promise political independence and must always vote their conciense.
-MTAP laws overwrite national legislation when it comes to the policy areas described above.

Article 7: Majatran Court of Justice
-A court will be created named the Majatran Court of Justice, being the highest court of law for member states in regards to: Human rights, environmental justice, freedom of justice
-The court can, in their rulings: demand action, enforce action, issue a fine, issue a prison sentence (of no longer then 10 years and with approval of the member state the individual resides in)
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Re: Branovice Summit on the Future of the Majatran Association

Postby albaniansunited » Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:12 pm

ImagePajtim Pajaziti, President of the Kalopian Republic

I am ok with all articles (including the optional). I do not see Article 3 in the proposal.
Before I give my consent, I will consult with my government.
Also, when I get Article 3, I can contribute with another version of the same document. I think I can craft more clear proposal (even thought, I like the current one). Lea did great work.

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Re: Branovice Summit on the Future of the Majatran Association

Postby Reddy » Mon Mar 25, 2024 6:36 am

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We conditionally endorse the proposal made by my Deltarian counterpart. We ask that Article 7 also be made optional to avoid the hijacking of the proposed courts as means for tyrannical imposition of certain values anathema to some of us.
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Re: Branovice Summit on the Future of the Majatran Association

Postby GreekIdiot » Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:35 am

Kalim Keshef, Deputy Head of the Medinat Department, Homeland State of Beiteynu

We applaud the introduction of the optional provisos.

However, the Homeland State of Beiteynu opposes 3 elements of the proposal.

First, we are in agreement with the representative from Jelbe with regards to Article 7, as we believe that the only supranational vehicles that should mandate such affairs be the World Congress and the Security Council, as the only ones more effectively impervious to potential interest-driven agendas.

Having said that, Beiteynu opposes the introduction of Article 7 even in an optional manner.

Secondly, we feel that the added complexity of the structure may hinder participation from and, by association, the level of involvement of member states. We suggest infusing the Majatran Council with the Collective Assembly into 1 body (i.e. Majatran Collective Assembly).

With 1 representative from each member state and the President rotating between member states every 10 years, instead of being elected.

Thirdly, and in accordance with our previous point, Beiteynu opposes the location of the MA's buildings in Deltaria; or any one specific member state. The MA should be a collection of satellite buildings across the continent to help enhance equal participation and leadership for all member states.

We understand the additional costs implied; the Beiteynuese Government will gladly provide a startup fund and a global network of contractors.

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Finally, Mr. Vučinić; we are slightly concerned about Deltaria's commitment in the long-term. Your country recently abandoned the CMRF, the MSCO's main vehicle for helping enforce security in our continent. Are there any points from your end on helping assuage these concerns?
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Re: Branovice Summit on the Future of the Majatran Association

Postby Rogue » Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:14 am

Lea Vučinić, Deltarian Foreign minister


Some valid points are being raised. We suggest to take the Beiteynese proposal for the executive wuth the small ammendment that the president continues to be a elected position, but is elected amongst active member states.

Secondly. The point of the court of justice. We believe the Jelbe proposal is valid in making it optional, removing it entirely would be ill advised as Deltaria prefers to see a court that can rule on certain topics for all those menber states ratifying that part of the agreement.

As for our "involvement", it was Deltaria that has launched this summit in an effort to recreate a version of our Majatran brotherhood the MA. Furthermore, our reasoning for leaving the CMRF structure can be directly attributed to Beiteynese refusal to respond to Deltarian and Majatran security concerns. We dont blame Beiteynu for having their own agenda, we merely dont seek to be part of it.

As a last point to the Beiteynese delegation. Im a woman, not a male.
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Re: Branovice Summit on the Future of the Majatran Association

Postby GreekIdiot » Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:54 pm

Kalim Keshef, Deputy Head of the Medinat Department, Homeland State of Beiteynu

We appreciate the response from the Deltarian representative.

We would still prefer a rotating President (with member states able to veto/oust) but don't stand firmly on that.

We are also fine with Article 7 remaining optional. However, Beiteynu will not ratify that part and we will always seek the council of the WC and the SC on such matters, regardless of whether a Majatran state has ratified Article 7 or not.

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Ms. Vučinić, if I recall correctly, the actual point of friction in the MSCO was Deltaria's refusal to provide concrete facts on the Deltarian and Majatran security concerns in question, despite Beiteynu's repeated inquiries to that effect in the MSCC.

It seems that Cachtica was the one pursuing an agenda, not Yishelem.

What other conclusion can we draw from the fact that Deltaria chose to leave the CMRF and follow its own independent path instead of presenting data on their concerns and discussing them with the rest of the MSCO's member states?

I understand that Mr. Shavit was not the most understanding of diplomats at the time, but your government then claimed an entire island!

Should we expect a similar conduct and policy from Deltaria in the Majatran Association?
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Re: Branovice Summit on the Future of the Majatran Association

Postby Rogue » Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:14 pm

Lea Vučinić, Deltarian Foreign minister


Deltaria has provided its points of concern, notable Beiteynu continuing to negotiate the stationing of foreign troops within Majatra. Their deal with ND and Luthori as an example. We want all foreign troops out of Majatra, as it makes it easier to defend our continent. But this is a discussion for the MSCC, not this summit. Deltaria will continue to work with and in the best interest of Majatra, also within a renewed MA.

I think we have come to an understanding on most issues of the proposal. Are their any other points to discuss?
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