Tian’an Conference

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Re: Tian’an Conference

Postby Mbites » Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:58 pm

_nicolo_02 wrote:Stella Bechtholdt, Foreign Minister, lead of the Dundorfian delegation:

The Federal Republic does not agree with the partitioning in areas which "great" powers should manage, that will not create the cooperative Terra that we need and besides, if said "great" powers enter a conflict between themselves, who will carry out the operations of "police force", element to which our esteemed Yingdalan colleagues compare the role of these "great" powers? It has to be recognized that the World Congress hasn't worked as it should have, we agree, but we find the reason of that non-ideal functioning in the limited enforceability of the WC's decisions and the lack of cooperation and interest in working out diplomatic solutions. Enforceability, mind, should not come from military retaliatory operations, which should exist in our view as a last resort option, but from non-military actions like sanctions and global isolation - with the purpose of cutting the economic lifeline of the country who's found in violation by the SC.

About the role of the Security Council, we don't feel like it should be abolished, it should serve as a body with a few representatives in it who can quickly decide about the pressing matters it face, but for it to work correctly, the nations holding office should not hold it for prestige reasons, but whether to present themselves as the voice of their continent. It means that the elected nation holding a SC seat, should work in coordination with their regional partners and its colleagues - this is something that I have not seen in the past, and it is one of the reasons the WC has not worked correctly.



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With absolutely no disrespect toward our dundorfian brethren, we feel like your opinion comes from a place of wholehearted benevolence but you have seen the same Artania we did. Certain... nations on the continent have tried and tried again to act as its official "voice." How did that turn out? It just made them rivals. And if we dont need anything its rivalry for speaking for the continent. We should all acknowledge, recognise and respect that there is no possible way that one nation can unite all the interests of a continent behind its back even if it may seem like they do. The ideas we have brought forth are just formalizing what already is the case, the WC and the SC have failed everything else aside from symbolic wordplay.
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Re: Tian’an Conference

Postby Paulo Nogueira » Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:00 pm

President António Salazar of the People's Republic of Tukarali arrives, accompanied by the Minister of Foreign Affairs, Artur Machado, they sit down and listen attentively to the issues being discussed.
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Re: Tian’an Conference

Postby Autokrator15 » Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:00 pm

Prince Louis, second Duke of Adlerberg, Prince of Orange-Villayn, looks minorly annoyed at the statement from Lourenne and whispered with annoyance whilst rolling his eyes:
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Re: Tian’an Conference

Postby _nicolo_02 » Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:11 pm

Mbites wrote:
_nicolo_02 wrote:Stella Bechtholdt, Foreign Minister, lead of the Dundorfian delegation:

The Federal Republic does not agree with the partitioning in areas which "great" powers should manage, that will not create the cooperative Terra that we need and besides, if said "great" powers enter a conflict between themselves, who will carry out the operations of "police force", element to which our esteemed Yingdalan colleagues compare the role of these "great" powers? It has to be recognized that the World Congress hasn't worked as it should have, we agree, but we find the reason of that non-ideal functioning in the limited enforceability of the WC's decisions and the lack of cooperation and interest in working out diplomatic solutions. Enforceability, mind, should not come from military retaliatory operations, which should exist in our view as a last resort option, but from non-military actions like sanctions and global isolation - with the purpose of cutting the economic lifeline of the country who's found in violation by the SC.

About the role of the Security Council, we don't feel like it should be abolished, it should serve as a body with a few representatives in it who can quickly decide about the pressing matters it face, but for it to work correctly, the nations holding office should not hold it for prestige reasons, but whether to present themselves as the voice of their continent. It means that the elected nation holding a SC seat, should work in coordination with their regional partners and its colleagues - this is something that I have not seen in the past, and it is one of the reasons the WC has not worked correctly.



FM Frittkau, DR:
With absolutely no disrespect toward our dundorfian brethren, we feel like your opinion comes from a place of wholehearted benevolence but you have seen the same Artania we did. Certain... nations on the continent have tried and tried again to act as its official "voice." How did that turn out? It just made them rivals. And if we dont need anything its rivalry for speaking for the continent. We should all acknowledge, recognise and respect that there is no possible way that one nation can unite all the interests of a continent behind its back even if it may seem like they do. The ideas we have brought forth are just formalizing what already is the case, the WC and the SC have failed everything else aside from symbolic wordplay.


Stella Bechtholdt:
I see the point that Mr. Frittkau makes, and I'd like to precise what I meant, a nation should not become their continent's voice by imposition, but through the means of cooperation. We don't deny, although, what we have seen in the past of this continent, to that end, there should be a focus on regional organizations and the role they can play to avoid rivalries and such.
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Re: Tian’an Conference

Postby Drax » Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:14 pm

Finance Minister Toislav Brnetic, Veliko Carstvo Deltarije, sends note to head table that at the appropriate time he has three observations.
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Re: Tian’an Conference

Postby Doc » Fri Apr 26, 2024 5:07 pm

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Re: Tian’an Conference

Postby Drax » Fri Apr 26, 2024 5:14 pm

Finance Minister Toislav Brnetic, Veliko Carstvo Deltarije:

With apologies for speaking out of turn if such is the case, Veliko Carstvo Deltarije, has three observations on the suggested plan for order on Terra.

First, defining the areas or regions overseen by the great ones is not a simple task at all. The World Congress seating divisions are not helpful. For instance, the only nation likely to be a great power in Seleya is committed to an entirely different course of action. In Artania there are at least three and conceivably five possible claimants to being the most likely to be taken seriously. In Majatra there is a great power who can tell everyone its successes in Majatra came from cooperation and mutual respect not from its unilateral directives.

Second, the most recent war was an exception to the usual pattern. Typically, in a hitherto isolated nation a new regime or faction decides it must either commit atrocities on its own population or on the citizenry of a neighbor. There have been occasions when the World Congress led in humanitarian relief, refuge absorption, and ending the atrocities through diplomacy or military force. After a long period when that is not the case, the World Congress seems to be interested in refuges and humanitarian relief again. But resolving the problem has been left to the neighboring nations. Veliko Carstvo Deltarije suggests this may well be preferable to what would be the result from the suggested plan on the floor.

Third, great powers come and go. There was a time when the nation of the Son of Heaven and my own were competing to be the First Nation of Terra. A long time ago. Eclipse followed. And more recently the most advanced military power is unquestionably not who it is today. Veliko Carstvo Deltarije suggests there are inherent difficulties here which may be very hard to overcome.
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Re: Tian’an Conference

Postby GreekIdiot » Fri Apr 26, 2024 5:23 pm

Lorieta Benowitz jolts from her slumber and politely applauds the Deltarian Finance Minister.
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Re: Tian’an Conference

Postby BananaZebra » Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:27 pm

Badaran Ambassador to Beiteynu Imsail Tzafrir and Foreign Minister Abdul Soleimani quickly join the Beiteynuese delegation, applauding in agreement with Deltaria.
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Re: Tian’an Conference

Postby Autokrator15 » Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:56 pm

Imperial Ambassador Prince Louis, Duke of Adlerberg, Prince of Orange-Villayn puts his tea cup down and joins the modest applause towards Deltaria, whilst nodding in agreement.
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