Independence of the Democratic People's Republic Padrilka

[freelibertarian]

OOC: I disagree as there are no automatic orders by Luthori to shoot anyone crossing the border which would obviously cause an international incident. Your argument is also unreasonable by virtue of Padrilka being in a state of civil war. How am I to believe that Luthori and Yishelem troops can keep Barmenian armies out of Padrilka when you can't even pound one region into submission. As such, it is reasonable to assume that the entire region is in a state of chaos including its borders. We are also in disagreement on the nature of the invasion; as we see it as a rescue mission. I do however see this as a unique case as the pansocialists began this RP and then failed to finish it. I will also point out that the civil war was passed a year before we intervened which means that your government and the Luthori government had one year and 8 months to come up with an RP plan and did not. So, I believe my ignorance of your military power in that region is justified. In any case, Barmenian is withdrawing and you can decide whether or not you wish to make this a real event.

[Bismarkey7]

OOC: Clearly, freelibertarian, you have never read the Pax Cynica. http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=23&start=0

[Duke Matthus]

OOC: It is not that Luthori itself has to vote on it, but we must be informed and at least told about it ahead of time. Yishelem is the only one of Luthori's connections that has this issue, and it was made in the peace agreement ending the Civil War. It does not mean that Luthori's Diet or players even have to play, but because Yishelem is a semi-vassal state, (and I say that not knowing really what to call it for it is kind of like P.R. is for the US, with it not being a territory yet technically being under the US and then again it not. Who knows for god’s sake?) Luthori players, or at least the controllers of the Imperial Dynasty, the ICL and myself, should be notified so that we can make sure there is nothing that gets in the way of the RP happening. Again it is not that we will not RP something. I for one open challange to the "Empire" that there is, however do not think that there is not troops there and such. All we ask is that we are told ahead of time what is going on, that things are planned out, and if Luthori is to to lose then so be it. I don't mind that, however it is unlikely since we have God on our side !!!!

Do I agree with the current paperwork needed to RP, no, however unless it is done before hand and decided on such things as key issues then RPs here do not go every well.

The Luthori War of Succession was the last open ended RP that worked well, and that actually did have some agreements before hand between those declaring War, myself, and the others trying to overthrow the monarchy in Luthori.

In the I agree it sucks, but it works so until we can all be angles and agree to lose at times and win at other time, the paperwork before hand must be done.

Bismarkey7: Who as ever read that entire thing besides the Mods, and understood half of everything that it says. I tried and I think I died a little when I did.

[Amazeroth]

OOC: It is not that Luthori itself has to vote on it, but we must be informed and at least told about it ahead of time. Yishelem is the only one of Luthori's connections that has this issue, and it was made in the peace agreement ending the Civil War. It does not mean that Luthori's Diet or players even have to play, but because Yishelem is a semi-vassal state, (and I say that not knowing really what to call it for it is kind of like P.R. is for the US, with it not being a territory yet technically being under the US and then again it not. Who knows for god’s sake?) Luthori players, or at least the controllers of the Imperial Dynasty, the ICL and myself, should be notified so that we can make sure there is nothing that gets in the way.

I wholeheartedly agree that you should have been informed. I'd say, however, that that duty would have lied with the Yishelem players, as it is a bit much to ask from the Barmenistans to fully know the state of liberty Yishelem actually has. This doesn't concern the godmod issue of course.

Bismarkey7: Who as ever read that entire thing besides the Mods, and understood half of everything that it says. I tried and I think I died a little when I did.

I did, and it seems to be quite ...problematic when it comes to RP, as it is quite easy to utilise in order to amass power, and is able to keep the game static if only one player wants it to be.

[Xanathos]

OOC: Barmenian is withdrawing and you can decide whether or not you wish to make this a real event.

Then it is settled, since you dont want to abide by the rules, your "invasion" never occurred and the whole RP is null and void.

[Bismarkey7]

OOC: Bismarkey7: Who as ever read that entire thing besides the Mods, and understood half of everything that it says. I tried and I think I died a little when I did.

Well, I have not read the whole thing, either, I admit, but I certainly have read the part on war and invasions. I had to to fight you guys .

[Duke Matthus]

OOC: Bismarkey7: Who as ever read that entire thing besides the Mods, and understood half of everything that it says. I tried and I think I died a little when I did.

Well, I have not read the whole thing, either, I admit, but I certainly have read the part on war and invasions. I had to to fight you guys .

That was smart answer. LOL

[Bismarkey7]

OOC: Bismarkey7: Who as ever read that entire thing besides the Mods, and understood half of everything that it says. I tried and I think I died a little when I did.

Well, I have not read the whole thing, either, I admit, but I certainly have read the part on war and invasions. I had to to fight you guys .

That was smart answer. LOL

Thank you! Haha