Third Darnussian Civil War

[MichaelReilly]

BRAUN LOSES PRESIDENCY



Johann Braun has been defeated in Presidential race by the Republican Party candidate. Braun, who ran on the basis of continuing the tensions with the Empire, lost to Mikhail Hasch, who ran on more moderate terms and who wishes to increase the peace between the two nations.

[Amazeroth]

Like I've said before. It's our RP. We decide. Not you.

You wanted war. We don't. It's our nation. We are the one's who have to deal with the consequences.

I don't want to make a larger thing out of this, but that is simply not true. RP doesn't belong to the nation it will happen in, and it never has so in the past. RP "belongs" to all players involved. I'm not saying that it shouldn't be possible to have peace instead of a surely devastating war between the two Darnussias, but especially the outcome of an RP - if such a thing is to be discussed before the actual thing starts (I think it is certainly possible, and has been done in the past, to have an RP where the outcome is willfully unclear to all at its start) - should be discussed with all players, not only the ones in the nation where it's happening, and I think this is a simple matter of fairplay. The other thing you could have done is to say that all things concerning the RP and its outcome will be decided by the Darnussian players only, right when you invited other nations to participate, and not after you've just changed how it's going to be.

[MichaelReilly]

OOC: What the hell are you all crying about anyway? That we didn't go to war? 'RP' doesn't mean 'war'.

[Eryk]

OOC: I seriously think that next time, everyone would appreciate that before you contact them and ask for their involvement you have an end scenario finished and the whole RP in a general outline to at least know how it starts and ends. This way you could save everyone's time and avoid such unrest about the issue.

[Romulus]

OOC: What Eryk, has said completely sums things up!

[UniSocAll]

OOC: I seriously think that next time, everyone would appreciate that before you contact them and ask for their involvement you have an end scenario finished and the whole RP in a general outline to at least know how it starts and ends.

OOC:
I disagree with this statement, most of the republican allies weren't sought after, they poured into the war when they knew about it, and it also correlates with the entire republican movement vs. monarchy power arc.

RP doesn't belong to the nation it will happen in, and it never has so in the past. RP "belongs" to all players involved. I'm not saying that it shouldn't be possible to have peace instead of a surely devastating war between the two Darnussias, but especially the outcome of an RP [...] should be discussed with all players, not only the ones in the nation where it's happening, and I think this is a simple matter of fairplay.

I agree with this statement more, specially the statements in bold, though these aren't my only issue with this entire fiasco.

IC:
Gaduri Troops Coming Home
Consul recalls all troops home without warning
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[MichaelReilly]

OOC: For thhe thousandth time, there was no fiasco. There simply wasn't full-scale war. Like I said before, 'RP' doesn't mean 'War'. And what's more, none of my allies were told they were going to war.

You lot really need to know the difference between stopping dead an RP, to simply deciding all-out war isn't the best track for the RP. UniSoc, you are blowing this thing way out of proportion.

And Eryk, that's not how all RP's work. You don't have to have a definite ending setout from the start. Where's the fun in that? If Kazulia, had, say suddenly attacked Narikaton during those tense times, then war would've broken out. However, since war didn't break out, Darnussian and Narikatonite leaders decided on peace instead.

There is only 1 ending condition: Darnussia will be united. How that is done is not definite.

[MichaelReilly]

The Tensions continue...

[MichaelReilly]

LEADERS MEET
- Imperial Chancellor and Republican President meet at the 'Migrant Conference' to discuss the future
- De Augustin and Hasch both wish for peace
- Both nations still unlikely to officially recognise each other


Imperial Chancellor Marcus de Augustin (left) and Darnussian President Mikhail Hasch (right) meeting in the Migrant Islands

[MichaelReilly]

BRAUN RE-ELECTED

FORMER PRESIDENT Johann Braun has swept back into power as Darnussian President in a shock victory, defeating incumbent Mikhail Hasch with a massive 58.3% of the vote. Hasch's moderate policies, while helping to create peace, has seemingly harmed Darnussia's standing in the world, and Hasch has been seen to sacrifice too much to Narikaton. Furthermore, Hasch's lack of character in contrast to the highly charismatic Braun is also a factor in the result.