Trial of the Saiser

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Re: Trial of the Saiser

Postby jethro » Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:16 pm

While the endorsement of the Axis is distressing, Mr. Lincoln should make a fine judge and arbitrator of tis affair.

All that is still needed are two volunteers (who may be as partisan as they wish, in fact that's probably a plus) to serve as Prosecutor and Defense. Then the trial can officially begin and witnesses can be called.
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Re: Trial of the Saiser

Postby GreekIdiot » Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:23 pm

We'll serve as a Prosecutor, if the international community allows us.
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Re: Trial of the Saiser

Postby Opakidabar » Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:10 pm

It was 60 game years ago.
Don Almos Kovach shall find a lawier to defend misunderstood Saiser and Saiserists if any of original ones is still alive.
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I would be happy to take the role of defender but I lack any knowledge on international court processes..
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Re: Trial of the Saiser

Postby Xanathos » Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:12 pm

The Axis, Office of the Chair

No market reforms or any other kind of policy reforms can even begin to overshadow the attrocities committed by the Saiserist savages and NWO scum in their insane quest to destroy Terra. The Saiserists are not "misunderstood" they are mindless murderers.

GPO affiliates have offered to defend the Saiserists, therefore, it would be inappropriate for a GPO affiliate to be prosecutor. In addition, as was stated previously, the GPO did not exist at the time of the Saiserists, which adds to the difficulty of it being prosecutor.

Furthermore, we do not believe a word of what the National Bolsheviks say, it is obvious that their own historians would like to portray them in a positive light and is is also quite obvious that they were NWO members, thus under the control of the Saiserists.
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Re: Trial of the Saiser

Postby Opakidabar » Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:17 pm

Xanathos wrote:The Axis, Office of the Chair

No market reforms or any other kind of policy reforms can even begin to overshadow the attrocities committed by the Saiserist savages and NWO scum in their insane quest to destroy Terra. The Saiserists are not "misunderstood" they are mindless murderers.

GPO affiliates have offered to defend the Saiserists, therefore, it would be inappropriate for a GPO affiliate to be prosecutor.

GPO affiliates have offered to prosecute the Saiserists, therefore, it would be inappropriate for a GPO affiliate to be defendor. :roll: Same logics :)

You guys are too much focused on alliances. You have to learn see people as independent subjects.

Besides your other point is plain stupid. If you have to be alive at the time of crime to prosecute someone, then only those older than 60 are allowed as prosecutors...
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Re: Trial of the Saiser

Postby GreekIdiot » Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:21 pm

Xanathos wrote:GPO affiliates have offered to defend the Saiserists, therefore, it would be inappropriate for a GPO affiliate to be prosecutor. In addition, as was stated previously, the GPO did not exist at the time of the Saiserists, which adds to the difficulty of it being prosecutor.


As stated in our manifesto, each nation may carve and follow its own path, despite being a member of the GPO. The official GPO stances are decided after discussion between members of the leadership board and are announced in the end by the Grand Secretariat. Therefore do not accuse us of anything, representative from the Axis, because we, as an official body that offered its services to the Prosecution, have not declared and said anything.

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Re: Trial of the Saiser

Postby Xanathos » Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:25 pm

As stated in our manifesto, each nation may carve and follow its own path, despite being a member of the GPO. The official GPO stances are decided after discussion between members of the leadership board and are announced in the end by the Grand Secretariat. Therefore do not accuse us of anything, representative from the Axis, because we, as an official body that offered its services to the Prosecution, have not declared and said anything.

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That is completely beside the point. Belonging to an alliance obviously indicates partisanship, therefore, in a fair trial, it cannot be acceptable that members of the same alliance be both prosecution and defense. Please try to understand our concern, we are quite sure the GPO would be uneasy if the Axis had proposed members to head both the prosecution and defense and rightly so.
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Re: Trial of the Saiser

Postby GreekIdiot » Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:28 pm

Xanathos wrote:That is completely beside the point. Belonging to an alliance obviously indicates partisanship, therefore, in a fair trial, it cannot be acceptable that members of the same alliance be both prosecution and defense. Please try to understand our concern, we are quite sure the GPO would be uneasy if the Axis had proposed members to head both the prosecution and defense and rightly so.


We would disagree with the Axis being head of both prosecution and the acdefense. But we really want to voice and show our peacekeeping opinion and efforts. We do not support the actions of the Saiserists, as they are pure ideals against peace.

And of course it's the point. We are an international alliance, but we do not interfere in each nation's paths.
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Re: Trial of the Saiser

Postby jethro » Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:31 pm

Both sides have a point. People should not be overly labeled based on their alliance affiliations, they are not part of one mass super-entity. However, I think the Axis actually makes a reasonable point that members of the same alliance should not hold both posts. The GPO can indicate its fair mindedness in either single post (particularly Defense, as you'd have to be ludicrously fair-minded to try to mount a credible defense, aside from possibly pleading insanity...) is my own opinion.
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Re: Trial of the Saiser

Postby GreekIdiot » Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:33 pm

jethro wrote:The GPO can indicate its fair mindedness in either single post (particularly Defense, as you'd have to be ludicrously fair-minded to try to mount a credible defense, aside from possibly pleading insanity...) is my own opinion.


We ask the position of Prosecution. If you wish to enforce the reign and international influence of apparently one organization, the so-called Axis, then we shall not participate in this set up, as we shall describe it.
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