Final Draft Approval Thread

Propose and review new legislative variables for the game.

Re: Final Draft Approval Thread

Postby Siggon Kristov » Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:22 am

Farsun wrote:I don't think that we should stop law proposals that require a constitutional majority, I think with the stopping of the development of the game we should add as much as we possibly can to the game to entice current players. As it was stated before "soft development", I think it'd be totally within the ballpark of soft development to add these rules regardless of their ability to be "constitutional" or not.

Agreed here.

Farsun wrote:RP constitutional amendments can be ignored just as any other law because they RP and players have a right to refuse an RP. With these, it'd actually have game mechanics to support it.

Well, Moderation has decided to uphold RP laws, so players can't just ignore them without repealing them. Still, I agree with you. We should at least have base laws in-game that guide RP. The RP laws can be fleshed out interpretations/extensions of the actual laws.
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Re: Final Draft Approval Thread

Postby Amazeroth » Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:31 am

Siggon Kristov wrote:
Aquinas wrote:I agree that's an exciting one. It was considered but rejected in the end because it looks like a constitutional law,

There are existing laws in the game that I believe, more strongly than this one, should have a supermajority requirement but they don't:
- National Animal
- Parliamentary Privilege
- The Government's position towards the administration of law

I had never thought about the National Military Policy before, but I think it could be argued enough that it's almost as deserving as a constitutional requirement as the proposed "Allegiance of the Armed Forces" law.


While I agree that some of those should be constitutional laws, there's no reason to do the same mistake again. If we started to freely add constitutional stuff as normal laws, the whole supermajority requirement would become just arbitrary and insignificant.
And since, as you state later, RP laws can't be ignored anymore, the best way to deal with constitutional matters not in the game already is by RP bills that allow for such requirements.
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Re: Final Draft Approval Thread

Postby Farsun » Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:36 am

Thats most disheartening to hear, but, it is what it is I guess.
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Re: Final Draft Approval Thread

Postby Aquinas » Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:40 pm

The following law has been added:

Name of the Law/Policy: Privacy protection for those in the public eye.
Law/Policy Category: Media


- The media may publish personal stories and photos relating to public figures, but only if deemed in the interest of the public.
- There are no restrictions on the media for pursuing personal stories and photos relating to the lives of public figures.
- The media may only publish personal stories and photos relating to public figures with their explicit permission.
- The media is forbidden from publishing any personal stories and photos relating to public figures, content is restricted to their professional lives.
- Local governments may determine levels of protection for public figures.


And the option highlighted in bold has been added to the law below.

Name of the Law/Policy: Discrimination in the military on grounds of race/religion.
Law/Policy Category: Military


- Any adult citizen can serve in the military, discrimination for racial or religious reasons is prohibited
- Candidates must be of a certain race/religion to be armed or take part in combat.
- Candidates must be of a certain race/religion to have any place in the military.
- The government does not interfere with the military over who can serve in it
- Candidates must be of a certain race/religion to hold positions of command.
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Re: Final Draft Approval Thread

Postby Polites » Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:44 pm

Darkylightytwo wrote:Name of the Law/Policy: Policy on Incest
Law/Policy Catagory: Moral

Options:
1. All incest is Illegal
2. All incest is Illegal but not prosecuted, only fined
3. Only heterosexual incest is legal by two consenting adults
4. Consenting adults participating in incest is legal
5. Policy on incest if left to the Locals governments
6. The Government has no policy on incest

Effects:
1. Morality: large increase Conservative | Civil Rights: large increase Restrictive | Centralisation: small increase Unitarsm
2. Morality: small increase Conservative | Civil Rights: small increase Restrictive | Centralisation: small increase Unitarsm
3. Morality: small increase Progressive | Civil: small increase Restrictive | Centralisation: small increase Unitarism
4. Morality: large increase Progressive | Civil: large increase Permissive | Centralisation: small increase Unitarsm
5. Centralisation: small increase Devolution
6. Gov Responsibilities: small increase Civil: Permissive, Morality : small increase Progressive.


Can we see this one added?
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Re: Final Draft Approval Thread

Postby Aquinas » Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:58 pm

Name of the Law/Policy: Legality of in-vitro fertilisation.
Law/Policy Category: Health

- IVF is legal and regulated in terms of the applicant's condition and procedural circumstances. (default)
- IVF is legal and unregulated.
- IVF is legal, regulated and only available to married couples.
- IVF is illegal.


Implemented.
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Re: Final Draft Approval Thread

Postby Aquinas » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:58 am

Name of the Law/Policy: Government policy on animal welfare in livestock farming.
Law/Policy Category: Agriculture

- The government enforces moderate animal welfare standards. (default)
- The government has no policy concerning animal welfare in livestock farming.
- The government enforces religious codes for livestock farming.
- The government enforces high animal welfare standards.
- Animal livestock farming is banned.
- Animal welfare laws for livestock farming are set by local governments.


Implemented.
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Re: Final Draft Approval Thread

Postby Polites » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:10 am

I think I never actually submitted this one, so here goes:

Name of the Law/Policy: Rights of slaves (if slavery is legal)
Law/Policy Category: Civil liberties

Options:
1) Slaves may not be mistreated and killed.
2) Slaves may be abused and tortured, but cannot be killed.
3) Owners can do as they wish with their slaves.
4) Government has no policy on the rights of slaves. (default)
5) Slave rights are determined by local governments.

Effects:
1) Small increase in gov. responsibilities, increase in civil rights.
2) Small increase in gov. responsibilities, small decrease in civil rights.
3) Decrease in civil rights.
4) Decrease in gov. responsibilities, small decrease in civil rights.
5) Increase in devolution.
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Re: Final Draft Approval Thread

Postby Farsun » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:01 am

Name of the Law/Policy: Policy on Infrastructure Development
Law/Policy Category: Infrastructure

Options:
+3) The national government actively develops infrastructure through government agencies;
+2) The national government actively develops infrastructure with contracts to nationally owned companies;
+1) The national government actively develops infrastructure with contracts to nationally owned and private companies;
0) The government does not maintain a policy on infrastructure development (default);
-1) The national government actively develops infrastructure with local governments
The national government oversees infrastructure development by local governments
-2) The national government oversees infrastructure development by local governments
-3) Local governments are responsible for all infrastructure development
-4) Neither the national government nor local governments maintain infrastructure

Effects:
+3) Large increase in: Centralization, Big Government and Regulation
+2) Medium increase in: Centralization, Big Government and Regulation
+1) Medium increase in: Centralization, Big Government and Capitalism
0) NULL
-1) Small increase in: Devolution and Small Government
-2) Medium increase in: Devolution and Small Government
-3) Large increase in: Devolution and Small Government
-4) Massive increase in: Devolution and Small Government


Submitting for approval.
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Re: Final Draft Approval Thread

Postby Aquinas » Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:24 pm

The clarification to option 2 has been implemented. Longer-term, though, I am inclined to believe this law and its options could be worked on more generally.

Arizal1 wrote:Name of the Law/Policy: A national television medium subsidized by the government.

Options:

1. All television media are private.
2. The government subsidises a national TV station for educational and informational purposes; other private non-subsidised TV stations are allowed.
3. All TV stations are owned by independent non-profit making cooperatives which are subsidised by the government
4. All TV stations are owned by independent non-profit making cooperatives which receive no subsidies from the government
5. The government subsidises independent non profit making cooperatives for educational and informational purposes; other private non-subsidised TV stations are allowed.

Comments: It already exists. This is to clarify it.
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