Titles of Nobility

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Re: Titles of Nobility

Postby Farsun » Sun Nov 21, 2010 2:16 pm

Well...I don't think anyone besides the big W can make these huh?
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Re: Titles of Nobility

Postby JuliaAJA » Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:51 am

Lord Wouter is the only one.
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Re: Titles of Nobility

Postby Farsun » Sun Feb 27, 2011 3:59 pm

Lusk wrote:Name of the Policy: Government Policy towards Titles of Nobility
Law/Policy Category: Administrative

Options:
1. The state grants hereditary and life titles of nobility.
2. The state grants life titles of nobility only.
3. The state recognizes existing titles of nobility, but does not grant new ones.
4. The state does not grant or recognize titles of nobility.
5. The state does not grant or recognize titles of nobility, but local governments may if they like.

Effects:
1. Increase in conservativism
2. Slight increase in conservativism
3. No effect
4. Increase in liberalism
5. Increase in devolution

Other comments: I guess this is ready to move to the next stage?


I figured this is a great idea. Anyone else have anything to add or shall we push this one forward?
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Re: Titles of Nobility

Postby JuliaAJA » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:50 pm

I say push it forth.
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Re: Titles of Nobility

Postby EdwardBishop » Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:15 am

I think this should be pushed forward as well...

As to the question of its relation to monarchies and republics:

A Noble Republic, for instance the is an example of republic ran by titled nobles,
a RL example is the Polish-Lithuanian Nobles' Commonwealth (Golden Liberty),

And of course many absolute monarchies throughout history have ruled without titular nobility, for instance, the ancient kings of the greek city-states,

So no matter what form the state takes, nobility should be an interesting option,
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Though, I submit that it should be paired with a similar proposal such as:

Name: Policy Concerning the Power of Nobility (if recognized):
Category: Administration

# - Options (Effects) - Explaination
1 - The nobility are allowed the powers of local government (++ decentralization/+++ conservative) - Truly Feudal Structure
2 - The nobility are allowed the power of legislative office (++ conservative) - i.e. The Legislature is a "House of Lords"
3 - The nobility retains personal priviledges but hold no governmental function (+ conservative) - Legally Recognized Social Aristocracy
4 - The nobility retains no priviledge other than title and form of address (default) - Simply an Honors System
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Royal Orange Party of Luthori (IA) - Holy Luthori Empire

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Re: Titles of Nobility

Postby Xanathos » Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:16 pm

EdwardBishop wrote:Though, I submit that it should be paired with a similar proposal such as:

Name: Policy Concerning the Power of Nobility (if recognized):
Category: Administration

# - Options (Effects) - Explaination
1 - The nobility are allowed the powers of local government (++ decentralization/+++ conservative) - Truly Feudal Structure
2 - The nobility are allowed the power of legislative office (++ conservative) - i.e. The Legislature is a "House of Lords"
3 - The nobility retains personal priviledges but hold no governmental function (+ conservative) - Legally Recognized Social Aristocracy
4 - The nobility retains no priviledge other than title and form of address (default) - Simply an Honors System


I like, finally a way to recognize how things work in Luthori!!!
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Re: Titles of Nobility

Postby EdwardBishop » Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:30 pm

Anyone care to take a stab at the creation of a final draft?
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Re: Titles of Nobility

Postby GreekIdiot » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:09 am

Agreed on the:
Name of the Policy: Government Policy towards Titles of Nobility
Law/Policy Category: Administrative


But a bit of reconstruction here if you allow me to:

1 - Local government control is shared amongst the nobility, as defined by the state.
2 - Legislative powers are exercised by the nobility, as defined by the state.
3 - Judicial powers are solely exercised and controlled by the nobility, as defined by the state.
4 - The nobility hold special privileges and minimum control in legislative and judicial powers.
5 - The nobility are granted full diplomatic and financial immunity from state interference. (meaning no taxes, etc.)
4 - The nobility only care the title and form of address, without special privileges. (default)
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Re: Titles of Nobility

Postby JuliaAJA » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:00 am

Barmenistan gives nobility the rights of local government and positions in the national legislature which also acts as the final court of appeals.
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Re: Titles of Nobility

Postby GreekIdiot » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:13 am

Jessaveryja wrote:Barmenistan gives nobility the rights of local government and positions in the national legislature which also acts as the final court of appeals.


So you're basically saying we should add "The nobility are in full control of the government and its powers." ?
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