Sexual Relations in the Military

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Sexual Relations in the Military

Postby Iori » Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:36 am

Name of Law: Government Policy on the Sexual Relations of Active Service Personnel
Law Category: Military

Variables:
-Active service personnel are not allowed to have sexual relations.
-Active service personnel are not allowed to have sexual relations except for specified periods of time.
-Active service personnel are only allowed to have heterosexual sexual relations.
-Active service personnel are only allowed to have homosexual sexual relations.
-Active service personnel are allowed to have sexual relations.
-The government leaves the matter to the military to decide on.

Effects:
1. Move towards restrictive, move towards Big Government.
2. Move towards restrictive, move towards Big Government.
3. Move towards restrictive, move towards Big Government.
4. Move towards restrictive, move towards Big Government.
5. Move towards permissive.
6. Move towards militant.
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Re: Sexual Relations in the Military

Postby Skullcrusher » Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:41 pm

I think more realistic options would be:

-There are no regulations on the sexual relations of active service personnel.
-Active service personnel are not allowed to have sexual relations with personnel of different ranks.
-Active service personnel are only allowed to have sexual relations with civilians.
-Active service personnel are not allowed to have sexual relations.
-The government leaves the matter to the military to decide on.
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Re: Sexual Relations in the Military

Postby Bismarkey7 » Fri Nov 05, 2010 12:04 am

Combine the two. More options = more fun.
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Re: Sexual Relations in the Military

Postby Skullcrusher » Fri Nov 05, 2010 12:37 am

There is already an option for homosexuality in the military, though. And what kind of government would permit only homosexual relationships?
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Re: Sexual Relations in the Military

Postby Iori » Fri Nov 05, 2010 12:48 am

Skullcrusher wrote:There is already an option for homosexuality in the military, though. And what kind of government would permit only homosexual relationships?


I would.
After all, because several ancient Hellenic armies fought along side their lovers they were far more effective, their's actually a quote by some early Christian guy on the matter.

Besides that if we have a law that allows for only women to initiate divorce, why not?
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Re: Sexual Relations in the Military

Postby JuliaAJA » Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:43 am

Bismarkey7 wrote:Combine the two. More options = more fun.

I agree.
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Re: Sexual Relations in the Military

Postby Captain-Socialist » Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:21 am

Iori wrote:
Skullcrusher wrote:There is already an option for homosexuality in the military, though. And what kind of government would permit only homosexual relationships?


I would.
After all, because several ancient Hellenic armies fought along side their lovers they were far more effective, their's actually a quote by some early Christian guy on the matter.


As a Classics student, I have to point that it's a myth. Most Hellenic cultures (armies included) punished homosexual intercourse with flogging unto death. The reason early Christians created the myth of rampant homosexuality was because when they found references to homosexual sex in Classic sources, they assumed it was proof of the devils work. However, quite a lot of these sources were actually negative towards homosexuality. Cierco regularly trumped up his McCarthyistic accusations against his opponents with vicious tirades warning of a plague of gay-boys armed with daggers killing their fathers and burning down the entire city. Homosexuality definitely existed, but it was not acceptable, expect with slaves (who had no "manhood"). Take for example the Roman practice of rude singing songs about your commander at his triumph in order to keep him humble, the only time Caesar objected to the content of these songs was when it was suggested he slept with men.

It is also common to mistake the patronage system for institutionalised homosexuality, these relationships were supposed to be spiritual not physical, and if discovered to be based on the boys "beauty" the punishment was again flogging. The Greeks did give us the term Platonic Relationship for a reason.
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Re: Sexual Relations in the Military

Postby Amazeroth » Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:21 am

Captain-Socialist wrote:
Iori wrote:
Skullcrusher wrote:There is already an option for homosexuality in the military, though. And what kind of government would permit only homosexual relationships?


I would.
After all, because several ancient Hellenic armies fought along side their lovers they were far more effective, their's actually a quote by some early Christian guy on the matter.


As a Classics student, I have to point that it's a myth. Most Hellenic cultures (armies included) punished homosexual intercourse with flogging unto death. The reason early Christians created the myth of rampant homosexuality was because when they found references to homosexual sex in Classic sources, they assumed it was proof of the devils work. However, quite a lot of these sources were actually negative towards homosexuality. Cierco regularly trumped up his McCarthyistic accusations against his opponents with vicious tirades warning of a plague of gay-boys armed with daggers killing their fathers and burning down the entire city. Homosexuality definitely existed, but it was not acceptable, expect with slaves (who had no "manhood"). Take for example the Roman practice of rude singing songs about your commander at his triumph in order to keep him humble, the only time Caesar objected to the content of these songs was when it was suggested he slept with men.

It is also common to mistake the patronage system for institutionalised homosexuality, these relationships were supposed to be spiritual not physical, and if discovered to be based on the boys "beauty" the punishment was again flogging. The Greeks did give us the term Platonic Relationship for a reason.



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Re: Sexual Relations in the Military

Postby Iori » Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:00 am

Captain-Socialist wrote:-snip-


Yes, but most people don't know that, thus allowing me to use the ignorance of the general population to push my agenda. :P
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Re: Sexual Relations in the Military

Postby Xanathos » Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:20 am

Amazeroth wrote:Thank you.


Indeed, thanks for that CS, very interesting. Skullcrusher's proposals make a lot more of sense, especially in light of what you just taught us.
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