Titles of Nobility

[EEL123]

Name of the Law/Policy: Granting of titles of nobility
Law/Policy Category: Unsorted

Options:
1. No titles of nobility are granted by the government.
2. Titles of nobility for life may be granted by the government.
3. Titles of nobility are hereditary.
4. Some titles of nobility are hereditary; others may be granted by the government.

Effects:
1. No effect.
2. Increase in government responsbilities.
3. Increase in government responsbilities, decrease in civil rights.
4. Increase in government responsbilities, slight decrease in civil rights.

Name of the Law/Policy: Recognition of foreign titles of nobility
Law/Policy Category: Unsorted

Options:
1. All foreign titles of nobility are recognised by the government.
2. Some foreign titles of nobility are recognised by the government.
3. Foreign titles of nobility are recognised on a case-by-case basis.
4. No foreign titles of nobility are recognised by the government.
5. Titles of nobility are illegal; those that accept foreign titles of nobility will lose their citizenship.
6. Titles of nobility are illegal; those that accept foreign titles of nobility will be prosecuted.

Effects:
1. Increase in foreign relations.
2. Slight increase in foreign relations.
3. Slight decrease in foreign relations.
4. Decrease in foreign relations.
5. Decrease in civil rights.
6. Major decrease in civil rights.

[lombas]

I would say the first and second option of your second proposal would increase internationalism.

Concerning your first proposal, the first option could increase small government? I suppose you mean "increase in big government" by saying "increase in government responsibilities"?

[EEL123]

Okay. I'll edit it.

[Amazeroth]

I'm not sure if the second law is needed very much, since the recognition of foreign titles of nobility is not really an important issue and can be handled by RP in the few cases it would be relevant. The other one is a good idea though, but I'd recommend a few changes:

1. Titles of nobility are not granted or recognised by their government, and their use is forbidden.
2. No titles of nobility are granted or recognised by the government.
3. No titles of nobility are granted by the government, but existing titles are recognised.
4. Titles of nobility are granted by the HoS or the government, and are recognised by both.


1. Decrease in civil rights
2. Slight decrease meaybe, could be no effect too
3. No effect?
4. Increase in government responsibilities?


But I'm really not sure about this, especially since this concerns only titles and not privileges that might be associated with them. On the whole, it could be better to leave this to RP.

[EEL123]

the recognition of foreign titles of nobility is not really an important issue and can be handled by RP

Yeah, okay. But as for your changes, I think that it's important that there is an option for hereditary nobles. Lots of monarchies will want that.

[Amazeroth]

the recognition of foreign titles of nobility is not really an important issue and can be handled by RP

Yeah, okay. But as for your changes, I think that it's important that there is an option for hereditary nobles. Lots of monarchies will want that.

I think they will, but I think this can be handled by RP well enough. The question if nobility titles are hereditary is as problematic as the rest of this law - it concerns only titles and not privileges.

[EEL123]

The question if nobility titles are hereditary is as problematic as the rest of this law - it concerns only titles and not privileges.

How about options regarding whether it's just a title, or carries privileges? Or maybe a new law proposal, because this one will have eight or nine options as a result if we lump them together.

[Amazeroth]

The question if nobility titles are hereditary is as problematic as the rest of this law - it concerns only titles and not privileges.

How about options regarding whether it's just a title, or carries privileges? Or maybe a new law proposal, because this one will have eight or nine options as a result if we lump them together.

Probably an option regarding the question if the title carries privileges too. Something like

- Only titular nobility is recognised by the state.

[EEL123]

I'm going to add another proposal

Name of the Law/Policy: Privileges of nobility
Law/Policy Category: Unsorted

Options:
1. Titles of nobility are not granted by the government.
2. Nobility confers only a title and no other privileges.
3. Nobility confers small privileges (such as a pension) in addition to the title.
4. Nobility confers major privileges (such as the right to hold serfs) in addition to the title.

Effect
1. No effect.
2. Increase in government responsbilities.
3. Small decrease in civil rights.
4. Major decrease in civil rights.