23rd General Assembly Session

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Re: General Assembly

Postby Edmund » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:54 pm

King Julien XIII, President of the General Assembly

For heaven's sake man, go! You are an unelected puppet, and now you attempt to be a moderate on an issue where there is no room for moderates. The illegitimate government's idea of a compromise is continuing their racist, colonialist rule for the next 400 years.

I also have proof that a cabal has been destroying evidence of opposition to their plans, specifically their plans of forcing you upon this esteemed body without a vote.
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Re: General Assembly

Postby Polites » Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:04 am

Naenia Concordia, Selucian Ambassador to the World Congress:

We find Valruzia's proposal for a peace summit to be the only sensible thing that has been said in these halls in a long time. We find it concerning how eager the Istalian delegation is to dismiss the principle of national sovereignty, the only thing that offers a partial protection to weak states from the interference of the strong. Selucia does however support the participation of the Malgy Liberation Front at the proposed Nowograd summit.
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Re: General Assembly

Postby Rogue » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:10 am

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Re: General Assembly

Postby Axxell » Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:02 am

Aldo Marino, Istalian Ambassador

Istalia is quite concerned by this last proposal. Of course, a peaceful resolution of this issue would be the best option, but... there are several points that generate further issues.
First of all: inviting the current Government of Noumonde will mean an implicit recognition of the Military-led coup d'etat and so will mean recognize this Government established through the force as the legittimate Government of Noumonde.

Second: recognizing this illigitimate Government will mean to give recognition to its segregationist positions and consider them as a valid opinion with which find a compromises when, instead, it is not immaginable to find a compromise! The Malgy must have the right to partecipate to the political, social and economic life of Noumonde and must be recognized full citizenship, duties and rights alongside the Canrillaise citizens without discrimination of any sort.

Or someone wants still propose form of "political and cultural relativism" to justify the discrimination of these population and justify a status of "minority" for other 400 years? Or someone wants to use the "Sovereignty" of a nation to justify its right to persue any kind of actions, discriminations, abuse, persecution and so on without that nobody could say something to stop all this?
Considers an ethnicity like formed by subhumans or retarded people it is not a violation of the most basic Human Rights? The World Congress has a dedicated office for the Protection of the Human Rights, you know?
We are sick to be criticized for our committment to defend those HUMAN BEINGS treated like subhumans, like animals, like B-category people for their ethnicity, for their religious belief, for their political opinions and so on. It is not a "maniacal comulsive" desire to impose a socio-political system to other countries that push us, but preciselly the fact that, also if imperfect, a liberal social democracy proved to be the system that could assure at best that nobody could be discriminated for any sort of reason compared to many other form of Government. As said, it is not perfect such system, but it is the least worse among many form of Government.

But let retourn on the Noumonde issue:

If a peace conference must be organized, no representatives of Noumonde could be recognized as legittimate reppresentative of the Government or of the entire nation. The representative of the Military Government should be considered with the same status of the Malgy Liberation Front or any other representative delegation of the Malgy ethnicity in Noumonde. No one currently can be considered as legittimate representative of Noumonde.
But remember very well: we have 2 position, 1 that wants to limit the rights of an entire ethnicity, the majority in Noumonde, colonized and constantly oppressed for centuries to maintain its political and economic power based on false and old racial ideologies as VERITABLE élite (it is just the same situation of Istalia, it is right Mrs Concordia?), the other position is the one of those millions of human beings oppressed for centuries that demand a simple thing: equal rights and equal treatment toward the law and the right to partecipate to the political, social and economical life of their country.

If this organization will not express all its support to the Malgy and will not show all its condemnation for the racial, segregational and discriminatory politics of the Canrillaise minority Establishment, well... I think will be useless continue to partecipate to its work, it would be useless to have a Bureau dedicated to the Protection of the Human Rights if we will give recognition to the racist position of the Military Government. It would be a shame and a total failure, the loss of any credibility and authority and, I think, also a valid justification for the Canrillaise Federation to act to protect the Malgy with any kind of measures if nobody other will run in rescue of those poor people.

Let talk, we will wish the best for this "peace" negotiation, but remember you: the position of the Military administration is not at all fair or worthy of equal consideration. It is not acceptable to give space to someone that demand the right to continue to govern and detain the majority of the power in Noumonde because white.

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Re: General Assembly

Postby Axxell » Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:10 am

Aldo Marino, Istalian Ambassador

We are really "surprised" to see how the unacceptable demands by part of the illegitime Military-led Government of Noumonde has made derail the peace talks.

There is no space to talk with someone that defend the right to oppresse and persecute another ethnicity, another political ideology, another religion. The respect for all the human beings and their opinions or beliefs and the right to express them and to partecipate to the political and social life of a nation is not something on which we can negotiate. All these thing are not negotiable at all. They are out of the negotation, they shall be at the base of any form of negotiation.

It is this the error of people like the Republican Selucian Ambassador: give space and equal consideration to ideas and concepts that are not at all equal! Relativism... stop with all this nonsense!
There is no relativity: human rights and democracy are absolute ideas! Their core principle SHALL BE APPLY AND ENFORCED EVERYWHERE WITHOUT EXCEPTION. ANY EXCEPTION IS AN INFRINGIMENT OF THE FOUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS OF ANY HUMAN BEINGS INDIPENDENTLY BY THE NATION, THE CULTURE, THE RELIGION FROM WHICH THEY COME.

For all this reason Istalia wants assure all the support that the Canrillaise Federation or the Valruzian Government could need to put an end to the illegal regime established by the White-suprematist dominated Military Government of Noumonde.

If there are IDIOTS on this world that doesn't want comply for thier interests with the civilizated international standard, well... they will face the hanger of the civilizated nation that doesn't accept to close the eyes before the sufference of millions of people discriminated, persecuted and exterminated. We don't accept another Rousseau, and it is just the last of too much dictators that for too much time perpetuated the worse horrors against human beings, while some burocrat in place like the World Congress continue to talk about dialogue with these dictator! Dictator are all the same: the only good Dictator is a dead Dictator!

A last thing to the Selucians: in the last 300 years, we saw the "National Sovereign" being used just to defend the right of some dictators or oppressive regime to continue to persue thier crimes without punishment! And these people, as said, needs only one thing: PUNISHMENT FOR THEIR CRIMES! I think that, if the Malgy will be able to regain their position in Noumonde, well... the Military Administration should be left in their hands! we will see how centuries of oppression will be returned to those white suprematist pigs.

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The Istalian Delegation announce that it will leave the General Assembly work until that the reason will be not retourned among the other delegates.
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Re: General Assembly

Postby Edmund » Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:31 am

King Julien XIII, President of the General Assembly and King of Noumonde

Your heinous comment will be stricken from the record. Centuries of oppression will not be "returned" to the Canrillaise population, and no illegitimate military government will rule over my people. Canrillaise and Malgy alike must reconcile as Noumondians and work towards a better future under my rule.
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Re: General Assembly

Postby Aquinas » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:21 pm

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Re: General Assembly

Postby Polites » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:30 pm

Naenia Concordia, Selucian Ambassador to the World Congress:

We will let moral philosophers and legal scholars debate on the relative guilt of the parties involved and the universality of human rights. That is not our purpose here. Our purpose is to promote peace and cooperation among and within the nations of the world. Human rights imperialism is still just that, imperialism. Undermining sovereignty will not lead to more democracy and more peace, but to anomie, chaos, and the transfer of genuine power into the hands of foreign nations and World Congress bureaucrats while destroying trust in national institutions.

It is time to put an end to the disastrous and deadly era of liberal interventionism and the moralizing impulses of great powers like Istalia. Good intentions do not excuse disastrous, unintended, but entirely foreseeable outcomes. Prudence and foresight are virtues, and ignoring the likely outcomes of one's actions is immoral. Abstract moralizing does little to help the people on the ground. Instead of over-eagerly adopting military intervention as the sole solution, in violation of international law and national sovereignty, the Great Powers, and Valruzia for that matter, should be realistic of the likely outcomes of such interventions. The Valruzian ultimatum and Istalian warmongering will not bring democracy and human rights to Noumonde. It will either strengthen General Remy Blanchard's regime due to the "rally round the flag" effect this blatant violation of international norms will have, or, worse, a brutal and genocidal civil war will errupt. Intervention can be effective and legitimate, but diplomacy and negotiation must be given a genuine chance.

If we are to find a solution to this conflict, we must recognize that the great powers and their allies are not the saviors of oppressed people, or indeed the oppressors responsible for all the ills in the world. The Malgy and Canrillaise of Noumonde are not and should not be the passive recipients of Istalian benevolence. We should instead encourage the resumption of the Nowograd peace process, and involve all relevant stakeholders. Not just the Blanchard regime and the Malgy Liberation Front, but also Noumonde's civil society, particularly those from faith-based institutions enjoying symbolic authority, who could unite diverse opinions and denounce violence and imperialism. Peace in Noumonde will not be delivered by aircraft carriers, but through the long and arduous process of intercommunal dialogue between those that experience violence on a daily basis.
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Re: General Assembly

Postby Rogue » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:02 pm

Walenty Batko, President of Valruzia

As the main Valruzian face towards the international community i would like to clear things up at this very moment. Valruzia was the ONLY nation proposing a summit in our capital Nowogard in order to find a peacefull resolution to this matter. While our intentions were good and genuine in trying to exhaust every diplomatic option we possibly could it became clear during the summit that the Noumonde regime only came to the summit to delay, obstruct and present their "plan" which included 400 years of military rule until democracy could be established.

What we are witnessing at this moment is not a question about who is acting imperialist anymore. Selucia knows that Valruzia has ALWAYS looked for the diplomatic option in its foreign policy and has rarely waged war. What we witnessed during the Nowogard Summit however is a regime that simply wants to stall its own demise. One that does not want to abide to international treaties nor to dissatisfaction by its own population.

Valruzia, as one of the stronger nations in the region, has a responsibility to not only the people of Noumonde but to our own population. How can Valruzia preserve its diplomatic identity if it doesnt act upon its demands and promises it? Believe me if i say, as president of our republic, that military action is the LAST option for Valruzia and it will stay this way. However following endless negotiations for over 1.5 years Valruzia sees all diplomatic options in this matter exhausted.
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Re: General Assembly

Postby Polites » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:49 pm

Naenia Concordia, Selucian Ambassador to the World Congress:

Given that, as President Batko rightfully points out, the Noumon government was not negotiating in good faith, it would have been legitimate to increase pressure on the Blanchard regime. But such pressure should have been increased gradually and proportionally. The threat of military intervention, the most drastic and extreme form of pressure, will yield no result other than increasing the defiance of the Noumon government in response to legitimate security threats. What is needed is less gunboat diplomacy and more engagement with the local civil society in Noumonde. If General Blanchard does not wish to negotiate in good faith, local parties, militias, and religious leaders perhaps will. And most importantly we need to address the deeper causes of this conflict and not escalate it needlessly. To that end Selucia offers to provide funding for the revitalization of the Noumonde land-distribution program, provided it is carried under local oversight and that no persons associated with either the regime or the Malgy Liberation Front can benefit from the program. Local reconciliation should always be the first step in a peace process. Military intervention should always be the last.
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