General Assembly Session IX (4234-4249)

Re: General Assembly

Postby stuntmonkey » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:21 am

Olimpio Gracchus, Leader of the National Socialist Party of Zardugal:


Members of the General Assembly,

We have all heard the recent comments made by President Abdul Amari of Badara, highlighting the neutrality of Istalia in regards to the civil war.

I therefore ask Ambassador Rodier of Rildanor to provide evidence to back up his earlier assertion that the Istalians "now seek to profit from their role on the SC in the Badara affair just as they sought to profit - unsuccessfully, thanks to our Kanjorian friends, from the situation in Vorona."

If Ambassador Rodier does not provide sufficient evidence about this specific charge I ask that he be held in contempt of this organisation and request the President of the General Assembly and the Secretary-General of the World Congress speak to the Rildanorian government about having Mr Rodier replaced as their official ambassador to this body.

Furthermore, if such a body as WCISASCAM is created to investigate imperialist ambitions, I ask that it urgently investigates the recent comments made by Mr Rodier in regards to working with the Aldegarian regime to carve up the continent of Majatra with no regards for the multitude of sovereign states or their wishes. Add that to his party's ambitions to create a 'magna' Canrille in southern Seleya and I think his accusations about imperial ambitions directed at others are somewhat ironic.

As for the honourable representative from Kanjor, I take on board his advice in regards to my party's diplomatic affairs. I would say this is not about taking sides with one country over another, this is about holding someone to account when they make serious accusations in regards to another nation. So far I have seen no evidence to back up this specific claim made by Mr Rodier, have you?

If the answer is no then, respectfully, Mr Allais, I urge you to heed your own advice when dealing with Kanjor's preferred bedfellows.


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Re: General Assembly

Postby Axxell » Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:24 am

Adriano Testanera:

Istalia cannot say nothing on other nations but Kanjor, Rildanor and so on can deal about the sovereignty of Majatra and also can demand to other nations what allies should have?
Shut your filthy mouth ridicoulus little men who dares to insult an entire people labelling them psycopatic! Istalia is seek of all this! Istalia is calling to stamp out Vorona baucause it is governed by criminals which exploit the slavery which so infringed clearly the Resolution 3.
And don't dare to call us ignorant or psycopathic, because the only ignorant who want show a Government elected without the consent of part of the population of Vorona, namely the slaves, as a democratic elected Government, is you, as well as all other members of your ridicoulus gang.
Vorona Government is totally illegittime! This Organization was founded to protect and spread the Democracy and the respect of the Human rights and Vorona is governed by criminals who infringed human rights and who were elected without the consent and the partecipation of thousand if not million of people without any right and reduced to be objects. And you want continue to call this a democratic and legitimate government? What a ridicolous little men!
Do you want continue in this way? well... you will met your match!

We will denounce all of you for this support to a crazy request against all Majatra and their nations and the openly support for the promotion of the Slavery around the world!
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Re: General Assembly

Postby Arapaima13 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:36 pm

Tomas Allais, Kanjorien Representative for the World Congress

Ah ha! Istalia have shown their true colours! Stamp out an entire nation because of a policy implemented by a few old men at the head of government - who by the way, the people didn't even vote for. Why do you want to punish the many for the mistakes of the few. There are innocent Voronan citizens who would, should Istalia have its way, be killed as a result of warfare, and starvation from their ludicrous blockade.

As for you falsely claiming that we called all Istalians psychopathic, look who's trying to run a defamatory campaign now! It's baloney! Istalia worries about how there are a few criminal minds at the top of the Voronan government. The same thing applies for Istalia, and in particular it's Presidency. We're not calling Istalians psychopaths but rather those people at the top, such as you, who are not out to improve the quality do life of your own people, but rather to expand your own agenda, by pursuing an aggressive foreign policy.

When the people rise up against a dictator, do we call them "little men", or "crazy". No we do not. So why should it be any different on an international level where Istalia is the dictator and we are the people rising up for a more democratic and responsible World Congress and Security Council. The fact is that our voice has been ignored, and we are now fighting for a say. Naturally, that will disappoint those who are currently in power, yet we ask them to listen, and to heed the fact that nobody likes them.

Also, could I sense that Istalia actually wants to go to war against us? The words "you will meet your match" are definitely not the words of a diplomatic and democratic country, but rather of one who actively wants a fight. I would be wary of using language like that, because if one nation takes the bait, several more will soon latch on, and before you know it you'll have more than Rildanor, Kanjor, "and so on" against you.

Finally, Istalia could at least have the decency of getting their facts right. Since when did Kanjor ever lend support to Aldegar for complete control of Majatra? When did Kanjor openly support the spread of slavery? Either the Istalian Representative is ignorant and has not done his research, or his is lying in order to make my nation look bad. Regardless, this is pitiful behaviour for a Representative inside such an organisation as this one. Indeed, we ask the General Secretary to instruct Istalia to withdraw those false accusations immediately. Whilst their opinion of us may use derogatory language, they should not be falsifying facts for their own gains.

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Re: General Assembly

Postby Axxell » Fri Jul 28, 2017 3:50 pm

Adriano Testanera:

Kanjor is clearly part of this campaign aimed to block any activities of this organization and any activity to enforce international laws. And seems that the current political forces to the Government of Kanjor created a treaty to associate Kanjor to Vorona and declared in this body its intention to proceed with it: http://classic.particracy.net/viewtreat ... atyid=3811
And was not Istalia, but the Hutorian delegation to propose a Resolution to condamn slavery nations and any nations which maintains economic and trade relations with such nations. A Resolution which will assure the respect of the Resolution 3 which we consider infringed by all these nations which want protect the slavery attemping to arrest also the production of a Resolution against Vorona.
And as said, about the vengeange feelings which aimed all this campaign against my nation, Istalia never proceeded with its blockade, in Istalia occured a serious changement of the leadership with the last elections which decided to retire any attempt of military intervention and to retourn to the Security Council to take diplomatic measures.
And among the diplomatic measures adopted by this Organizations and as common international practices there are economic as well as trade sanctions which will affect the same which were able to vote to perpetuate the exploitation of other human beings, other human beings which instead were totally excluded by the political partecipation. Any single person which voted in favor of the Slavery is a criminal which goes against an international normative produced by this international organization which condamned nations, organisations and individuals.

About the other allegations and insults against the highest officials of the Republic, your words are simply nonsensical and not supported by any evidence. A member of this malicious association of nations still again is accusing without bring any proof, despite the requests of many other members of the General Assembly.
But as said, I think that you will never be able to show us a "proof", but... it is clear that here nobody is interested by the facts, you as your fellow comrad are aimed by one and only one thing. But the falsehood in your words is only ridiculizing you.

Istalia already recognized its fault and is committed actively to change its foreign policy, these are facts not void retoric. We also agreed so that the Resolution against us will be voted by the Security Council and we will be ready to accept the conseguences.
But nobody can question the right of Istalia as member of the Security Council to propose Resolutions and launch a vote on them. The Security Council is the body of this Organization authorised to generate resolution and to contribute to the International Law. The General Assembly is an advisory body. We are sure that the Security Council will take into account the "contribution" of the General Assembly but the Security Council never worked taking decision regarding the predominantly tendency of the will of the Government of Terra, it has always worked judging on the basis of the International Law and of the sources of the International Law.
Let's express the Security Council on the matter. Kanjor could be satisfied, or not. The Security Council will decide the matter and in the case you should not agreed with the decision, you can engage you for the next election of the Security Council.
The rest of the Government of Terra will decide if support or not you, hoping that they should not fear repercussions and insults for a negative response as Rildanor did when Istalia declined its request of support for the run to the Security Council.

About the word used by me previously, it was an informal way to invite you, once again, and following the selucian as well as the zardic, the baltusian and the badaran representatives, to present some proof about your allegations, so we will see how robust are your allegations.
By our part, we have the law originated by this Organization: you and the other nations so engaged to smear Istalia is clearly opposing to us to take measures into the Security Council against Vorona and so this pressure is pushing the Security Council to not respect one of its own Resolution, the Resolution 3 and we are working into the SC to respect the disposition of this Resolution.

Finally, currently, after that falsehoods and madness flooded this assembly, after having seen another Shah reclaming Majatra as it was an estate abroand, and after having seen Rildanor agreed and acting like a salesmale proposing the best territories to be seized by the Crown of Aldegar, after having see the totally disinteress and inactivity of all the officials of this organization, the words I have to use is really the last thing I care about.
Istalia is no more obliged to respect your nation and you, their representatives, since any respect for my nation and its people was totally abolished long time ago.

Thank you at all for your useless contribution, this delegation finished to continue to assist to such a circus. The Istalian Government will continue to maintain a representative only inside the Security Council while will not spent any more time to assist to this act. Do you want continue to bark like hydrophobic boboons affect by rabies? Go on, you will be simply ignored. You deserve only to be ignored. We cannot continue to fed such kind of "insult" and "degeneration" of the human intelligence like the current Government of Kanjor, Rildanor or Vanuk... ops... sorry, the shameless party of the Royal dynasty of Vanuku, the main responsable of the problematic relations with my nation was crushed into the last elections.

However, before to leave you we would like thanks the nations which recognized our actual committment.

The representative into the Security Council will be authorized to intervene into the General Assembly only under the authorization of the Istalia Government.

Good evening
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Re: General Assembly

Postby Aethan » Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:54 pm

OOC: Does anybody know where is the current General Secretary of the World Congress?
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Re: General Assembly

Postby Arapaima13 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:55 pm

Tomas Allais, Kanjorien Representative for the World Congress

So when we asked them to apologise, they didn't. How arrogant - and how typically Istalian. In response to them leaving - all I can say is hallelujah and good riddance. Yet again trying to avoid scrutiny. At least with you leaving the General Assembly, we can actually get down to business and behave like a World Congress should do.
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Re: General Assembly

Postby stuntmonkey » Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:46 pm

Olimpio Gracchus Leader of the National Socialist Party of Zardugal:

This is a day of infamy. Shame on those representatives who have bullied with false accusations and base insults an integral member of thìs body, whose only crime was to provide humanitarian help foŕ those who suffered under cruel regimes.

You are not ignorant people. You surely know that national sovereignty càn not be used to hide crimes against humanity. Such appeasement is a fool's path. So I assume you must be deliberately ignoring this to bring down an opponent for political gain.

So be it, if that is the way you wish to behave but I suggest, Mr President, that this is a contemptible game to play while people die around Terra and only goes to bolster the spirits of would-be despots that they can get away with it too.
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Re: General Assembly

Postby Arapaima13 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:01 pm

Tomas Allais, Kanjorien Representative for the World Congress

To answer the Representative from Zardagul in short. Innocent people would die in the case of military conflict in Vorona, or in Badara. In warfare both sides commit unspeakable atrocities - Istalia are not the horse in shining armour you may think they are. On the battlefield, soldiers aren't going to remember that they are fighting for a nation that plays fair in war; they are going to be fighting to live at all costs.

You want proof? Look at every single war in history. To suggest that your proposals would save more lives is fundamentally stupid. Warfare has never saved more lives. Have you ever been in a war zone Mr Gracchus? Do you honestly think that people would be happy that you have turned their country into a barren battlefield?

And what happens when war is over? The nations talk - and to be fair to Istalia they have done that in Badara. Why can't the talk and the diplomacy happen before any bloodshed though? Why can't you accept that a common sense talking approach may work. The Foreign Minister for Kanjor was in contact with the then Foreign Minister of Vorona, who complained that there was a lack of communication from nations such as Istalia and Mordusia, and that they were too eager to jump to action. You may argue that we are fighting for political gain (what gain we're getting I struggle to see), but to our eyes you are warmongering.
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Re: General Assembly

Postby Axxell » Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:40 am

Message from the Istalian Delegation:

Could Kanjor representative show when and where Istalia proposed an invasion of Vorona or proposed to bomb Vorona? And could Kanjor show us what responsabilities has Istalia for the Civil War in Badara or show us when Istalia decided to send military personel in Badara?
How stopping some vessels or planes could generate war devastations? How seize goods and funds which fed the slavery regime could be compared to something like, for example, a carpent bombardament?
And do you really think that we would allow to starve the Voronan civilians? Food and basic necessity were be sent in Vorona, off course, but not goods, funds and services which represent the business of many slavers, most of them citizens of Vorona, supporters of the slaver Government, and with which the Government collects tax to funds its administration and to continue to persue its policies.
By the way, as said, due to internal politics changement we already drop out any attempt in this sense and the new Government of Istalia decided to respect the request made by the members of the Security Council and to take a more cooperative behavior toward the World Congress. More then change our foreign policy there is nothing more we can do. We also accepted that the Security Council will discuss the Resolution 27, despite we have already expressed our concerns about the motivation behind the Resolution, and sorry if we say that, but we are not stupid and we can perfectly see what is hidden byhind all this circus, just like other nations which already expressed their concerns about the overkill against Istalia of this debate.
But even more important point: why this Organization should persue a nation which already acted to comply to its requests? More than respect the requests of the Security Council, what should do Istalia? What did we ask to other nations interested by WC's actions if not comply with the request of the Organization? Or Kanjor maybe would propose to use a double standard and to persue what could seems a vengeance?

About the apology, we apologize with Kanjor if we could have understood and say that its Government supported the absurd demands of Aldegar but for the rest, Kanjor should show some evidence for its allegations about military actions of Istalia, planned invasion of other nations by part of Istalia, specifically against Vorona and now Badara. We are ready also to request to the Organization to invite you to show to the Assembly some evedinces of all these istalian interventions, bombardments, invasions plans, etc... which we persued or attempt to persue.

About what say to you Vorona, we can assure you that we establish a communication line with Vorona since the problem arise into the General Assembly and we try to persuade its Government which however responded clearly that they would have abolished the Slavery.
We had to wait for a response from the SC, this is true, we recognized it and after requests from other members of the Security Council we comply to the request and changed our foreign policy.
It is useless now talk with the current Government saying that we should take more diplomatic behavior, because we already recognized it and we changed our approach to this matter.
Something recognized only by few nations while those that still are accusing us seems that they don't want recognize it and want simply persue their vengeance and try to limit the power of Istalia as member of the security Council. Which it is unacceptable.

Now, if this Assembly want know the future program of Istalia, and we have nothing to hide, we will engage ourself to invite the greatest possible number of Nations to vote in favor of an internal bill to comply with the Resolution 26 and then we will continue with the negotiations between the beligerant parties of the Badaran War and soon we will send an humanitarian mission to rescue the refugees of the conflict.
Maybe other nations could be interested to assist Istalia to bring aid or provide medicaments, food, atc... it will be appreciated and we think could be a better way to spend our times.

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Re: General Assembly

Postby Arapaima13 » Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:15 pm

Tomas Allais, Kanjorien Representative for the World Congress

A blockade is a form of military conflict. We never mentioned a full scale invasion, nor a bombing programme. However an aero naval blockade, one supported for several years by the Istalian Government (in all fairness they did retract support - but only due to international pressure), is a form of conflict, and therefore warfare.

In regards to Badara, our Foreign Minister, M. Laban Kramer, will now look at particular humanitarian programmes. Although we disagree with the politics of the current government, we respect their sovereignty. We are concerned though of the current one-way feel within the negotiations. The Badaran Government cannot be allowed to get it completely their way, and a compromise must be reached.
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