General Assembly Session VIII (4219-4234)

General Assembly Session VIII (4219-4234)

Postby stuntmonkey » Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:16 pm

Isobella Descartes, Baltusian Ambassador to World Congress:

Fellow members of the World Congress,

As Baltusia's new ambassador to this organisation, I have been charged with widening the debate on reducing nuclear weaponry and other weapons of mass destruction. Our nation's politicians are of a mind to pass laws preventing the development of nuclear weaponry in Baltusia even though we have now reached the point where we are capable of producing them; however, it is our desire to see this achieved in a structured, multilateral way involving as many other nations on Terra as possible.

I therefore call upon all countries and, in particular, the other 12 great or regional powers - who have the capability to develop a nuclear arsenal - to discuss this matter and to determine whether an up-to-date international nuclear disarmament or non-proliferation treaty - full or limited - is a possibility, or whether this issue cannot be resolved on a worldwide scale at this time.

(See Military Rankings for more on suggested nuclear capability: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7293&p=115462#p115451)

I thank you for listening and look forward to your responses.

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Re: General Assembly

Postby jamescfm » Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:14 pm

Shahrzad Rahija, President of the General Assembly:
Clearly, multilateral disarmament is something which most nations support in principle and which is beneficial to global peace and security. How we work towards achieving this objective is less clear cut. In my own position, I am interested in the possibility of appointing a committee of some kind, perhaps led by the Baltusian delegation, who would help establish the World Congress' role in this matter. Either way, I invite the various national delegations to make clear whether this is an initiative they can support.
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Re: General Assembly

Postby TheTsar » Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:39 pm

Ilya Popov, Trigunian Ambassador to the World Congress, addresses the General Assembly regarding nuclear disarmament:
My government fully support this international disarmament initiative, and are willing to participate in any and all discussions regarding this matter. However, unless all nations abide by a nuclear disarmament treaty, full disarmament is a) dangerous and b) not one nation in their right mind will do so. However, until all nations agree to disarm their atomic and hydrogen weapons, only a limited disarmament is fitting. Thank you.
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Re: General Assembly

Postby jamescfm » Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:58 pm

Marc Hennequin, Kanjorien Foreign Affairs Minister:
In Kanjor, we recognise how disarmament can be beneficial to world peace and stability yet we retain reservations about this discussion. Linking to the comments by the Trigunian ambassador and those made in the Security Council by the Istalian delegation, disarmament by free, democratic and prosperous nations leaves only international rogue states in possession of the most deadly of weaponry. As such, any multilateral agreement must involve those nations which are perhaps not always so cooperative. Similarly, we recommend that total nuclear disarmament is not pursued. Instead, we suggest devising a solution which sees certain nations- those who we can trust such as Trigunia and Vanuku- holding onto their nuclear arsenal so that they might provide security for the rest of the globe.
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Re: General Assembly

Postby Cirith » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:35 pm

James Stinson, Foreign Secretary of Luthori and Deputy Leader of the RCP;

Complete nuclear disarmament is a dangerous idea.

For three fundamental reasons, pursuing this theoretically laudable goal would likely produce a more dangerous world. First, as a means for maintaining security, it is difficult to identify a credible alternative to nuclear deterrence. Second, how would a world without nuclear weapons be managed? If the world were essentially one big peace cartel, this cartel would be very fragile indeed. The third factor against total disarmament is the difficulty of effecting a transition to a nuclear-free world. States have developed nuclear deterrents for a variety of reasons, but chief among these whether for the great powers, or for middle powers has been threat perception, and these threats are not going anywhere.

We have no choice but to oppose disarmament, and have proposed our RE-Affirmation of Arms Act in the Patriots House to secure Luthori support for our nuclear capabilities and arms.
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Re: General Assembly

Postby jamescfm » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:40 pm

Pramila Pyakuryal, Secretary-General of the Human Rights Foundation:
In light of the recent report by the Human Rights Foundation which shows that no fewer than ten nations present an immediate threat to the lives of their own citizens, how are nations proposing to tackle those rogue states which do not adhere to the fundamental principles of freedom, justice and equality?
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Re: General Assembly

Postby jamescfm » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:54 pm

Shahrzad Rahija, President of the General Assembly:
Foreign Secretary Stinson, with respect your comments appear to contradict the fundamentals upon which this organisation is founded. We believe in peace and stability yet you appear to oppose the notion of global peace; if this is the case then I won't hesitate in saying that you are unlikely to find sympathisers in this body. Nonetheless, I am willing to suppose that you were simply expressing yourself badly. Obviously, a world completely free of nuclear weapons would be far safer and more stable than the one we live in today but you correctly note that this is idealistic.

It is for this reason that I am interested in the proposal from the Security Council, which suggests that certain specific nations should retain nuclear capability in the short-term to ensure that the transition is planned and managed rather than too hasty so as to increase instability. For example, even when a nation like Luthori possesses nuclear weaponry, it is likely to pale in comparison to the arsenal of a nation like Vanuku or Hutori. Might it not be better that Luthori entrusts their security to their better equipped allies to allow them to focus on economic and military development in other areas rather than funnelling large sums into nuclear arms.

With regard to the comments from Secretary-General Pyakuryal, I offer a commitment from the World Congress to analysing the report from the Human Rights Foundation and I ask delegations to make their commitment to the values espoused by the Secretary-General clear.
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Re: General Assembly

Postby Cirith » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:44 pm

James Stinson, Foreign Secretary of Luthori and Deputy Leader of the RCP;

We believe in peace and stability, we just happen to believe stability is maintained by the nuclear deterrents and peace can only be assured by the mindset which MAD gives those with nuclear weapons. The sheer fact that nations have nuclear capabilities is enough to stop all out war unless a nation is on a suicide mission, which this Congress would be impotent to oppose anyway.

One does not have to oppose nuclear weapons to support the notion of global peace do they? Or is the Assembly President now saying that nuclear nations and those who wish to maintain their own defensive deterrents, especially in the face of recent threats from the likes of Vanaku, have no place in the World Congress?

We are not expressing ourselves badly, we are making our realism very clear, a nuclear free world is essentially impossible, and we simply accept that fact so choose to ensure Luthori is strong, capable and peaceful, with a nuclear deterrent we are not willing to give up or discuss.
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Re: General Assembly

Postby jamescfm » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:35 am

Shahrzad Rahija, President of the General Assembly:
If that is your position, I will respectfully inform you that it is not the view of the World Congress. Nevertheless, I assure you that you are completely wrong about the preventative capacity of nuclear weaponry; over recent centuries we have seen nuclear nations go to war on countless occasions. If you are committed to true world peace then you should be committed to multi-lateral disarmament, executed in a safe and effective manner, too. A nuclear free world is absolutely possible and that is one of the World Congress' fundamental aims.

With regard to your specific threats in relation to Vanuku, we see no evidence of their existence and this is the first we have heard on the matter. Do you have any supporting references on this situation because it is an extremely serious and particular accusation to make in the General Assembly?
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Re: General Assembly

Postby Cirith » Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:42 pm

James Stinson, Foreign Secretary of Luthori and Deputy Leader of the RCP;

We are a member of the World Congress, and it is our view. I imagine we are having this discussion because the World Congress has not taken a united position backed by all 50 member states. Is it now a case of the view of the World Congress is the view of the President of the General Assembly alone?

We share that fundamental aim of world peace, that does not necessarily mean nuclear free. Nuclear power is a huge asset that should be shared with all nations, but the chance for rogue nations to try to develop nuclear weapons from there is great, and to disarm the rest of us for the excellent but impossible notion of a nuclear free world, is both ambitious and folly.

Do not mistake me, we want peace, we fight for peace and Luthori has not been at war for a long time, and will not be for a long time to come, it is our hope. We are taking an internationalist stance, reaching out to allies and friends, even trying to join the AU to help that organisation thrive once more.

But when it comes to nuclear weapons, it is better the states who can retain them responsibly do so, to offset any rogue nations gaining them and taking out Terra.

As for Vanaku, their Government made threats against Luthori's several years ago. They threatened the administration of the Party of Patriots with invasion to restore the monarchy. Of course these threats were presented by the PP Government of the time, and no threats have been made in the last 5 years, towards this Coalition Government.
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