General Assembly Session XIV (4311-4327)

General Assembly Session XIV (4311-4327)

Postby RedReaper » Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:21 pm

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Address By Peter Eichenwald, Ambassador Of The People's State Of Hulstria And Gao-Soto To The General Assembly Of The World Congress;

Honorable Viscount Fukuyama,

Why must you insult my people and my State in such a way. The People's State has as much of a right to exist as you do, and yet you deny we exist? We do not pretend that your Provisional Government does not have legitimacy to exist on its own terms. Let's be mature and reasonable here, as I know you have been in the past.

The crux of the issue, as you as much as I well know, is that the two legitimate States presently occupying territory in Hulstria have very different constitutions, and very different Rights for their citizens. Indeed these Rights are at present incompatible, having contradictory values held between then. Now the mature and democratic way to go about this process of forming a new united State is for all parties involved to work together on a new Constitution. Such a tremendous undertaking is necessary in order for such a State to be created which best pleases both parties.

The Volksstaat is more than happy to take part in such an undertaking, indeed we are happy to include most of if not all of the provisions within the Septembrist Basic Law, however we seem to think that the Septembrists wish to deny our involvement, and to dictatorially proclaim that the constitution they formed, that they wrote, should be forced upon all people of Hulstria and Gao-Soto, even those which aren't of the Septembrist ilk, especially those citizens of the Volksstaat.

Now if the Septembrists wish to bring about peace, a fair peace, which pleases all parties in this United Front against Nimitz, then the Volksstaat would gladly integrate itself within the new order, and the Volkspartei will run as any other party. However, if you seek to force your own laws onto the Citizens of the Volksstaat with no true democratic process, how can we accept that the Septembrists are a truly democratic force.

Herr Fukuyama, do you accept the overall truthful nature of this premise?


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Re: General Assembly

Postby Martinulus » Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:20 pm

Seodoru, Viscount Fukuyama, Minister of Foreign Affairs of the United Imperial Crownlands of Hulstria and Gao-Soto

Honourable delegates,

The Provisional Government of the United Imperial Crownlands of Hulstria and Gao-Soto would like to extend its gratitude to the Government of Indrala. I understand a bill to formally recognise our government is being drafted and we are duly grateful. We have also received messages of support from other governments around Terra to which we are as grateful and we would like to urge delegates here to follow their example.

Turning then, to the address just now by Eichenwald-san. I must say I am slightly perplexed. With laudable skill in words, the honourable delegate has succeeded in making the exact thing I proposed just now seem diametrically opposed to the views he states, which are effectively the same! We have invited the People's Party to participate in the elections of an Imperial Diet which will finalise the Constitution of a liberal multi-party democracy in Hulstria and Gao-Soto. It is true that the parties currently working together in the 15th of September Movement would prefer that Constitution to more or less resemble the Basic Law. But we are very keen to defend that view at the ballot box and convinced that the citizens of our nation will endorse it. I wonder, with all due respect to Eichenwald-san, whether the same can be said of the Volkspartei given its obvious reluctance to accept our invitation.

I fail to see what is inherently unfair about the Basic Law. It's a liberal democratic constitutional document which sets forth the rules to be expected in any serious liberal democratic context. In addition, it is based on the same principles as the last democratic Constitution of Hulstria and Gao-Soto, the Imperial Constitution of Hulstria-Mikuni. By several modes of reasoning, submitting yourself to this particular set of rules to push your views is not unreasonable but instead an eminently democratic act that the parties forming the Provisional Government are ready to undertake and will undertake as soon as our country has been reunified with the generous support of the international committee.

We are in effect in agreement! I would urge Eichenwald-san to accept that fact. The question is - does he?
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Re: General Assembly

Postby RedReaper » Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:09 am

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Address By Peter Eichenwald, Ambassador Of The People's State Of Hulstria And Gao-Soto To The General Assembly Of The World Congress;

Honorable Viscount Fukuyama,

I will have you know that we are surely not in agreement.

The Basic Law, we agree, is a solid basis for a democratic society, but you ignore the economic base of such a State. What the Septembrist movement up until this point has so far failed to grasp, is that although we are in agreement politically, we find the Basic Law lacking an economic position. Indeed we find the Septembrists overall to be devoid of any economic position at all.

You exist solely in the political plane, and although we find your efforts in this field commendable, we find your lack of economic ideas idealistic at best.

What matters isn't simply if people have control of their government, what matters is if people have control of their economy, of the productive forces of their society. Simply declaring democracy while leaving so much under minority control in the hands of both national and international bourgeoisie leads to democratic weakness not democratic strength.

We do not know if our aims are even possible under the circumstances you lay out in your Basic Law, and a State where we cannot achieve our aims is a State which is pointless to participate in save for wasting time, resources and lives. Hence, we seek a meeting between our two governments, to construct our new constitution together, instead of us dismantling before we have an effective State apparatus to operate under.

I appreciate your positive steps Herr Fukuyama, but I am afraid with your current proposals we cannot come to agreement.


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Re: General Assembly

Postby Martinulus » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:47 pm

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Yasumoto Kyoshi, Provisional Foreign Minister of the Independent Crownland of Ostland-Touryou

Honourable delegates,

I am inexperienced in the ways of diplomacy, discriminated as my people have been in terms of state service during the centuries of apartheid. You will forgive me a little bluntness as I become accustomed to this manner of speaking. I come bringing the joy of my nation to this place. The era of imposed Dundorfian rule is finally over, and we have finally replaced the hated black-and-white with our beloved white, purple and green, symbols of unity in our land. We are overjoyed to return to a state where Hulstrians and Kunihito can live together in harmony under the democratic rule of law. Banzai!

Forgive me, that must've startled you. Um, I guess it wouldn't have been possible without the generous support of the World Congress. My government asks you to recognise the transition into our new constitutional status as the Independent Crownland of Ostland-Touryou. We also demand, I mean, request, to be henceforth referred to in short as Ostland-Touryou. We're all equal now, after all. We also urge the recognition of our brothers and sisters in the Crownlands of Hulstria and Gao-Soto who are still struggling to overthrow the regime of the tyrant Leopold Nimitz. *spits*

*is called to order* I am sorry, distinguished President. That man just provokes a virulent reaction after what he did to my people. We will not ask reparations from the United Imperial Crownlands, as we consider them to have suffered under the same yoke, but I urge you to parade that man to the scaffold and give him the same fate he gave the Kunihito people. An unmarked grave is too good for him. *in the meantime, Viscount Fukuyama looks embarrassed*

I thank you.
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Re: General Assembly

Postby Martinulus » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:01 pm

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Seodoru, Viscount Fukuyama, Foreign Minister of the United Imperial Crownlands of Hulstria and Gao-Soto

Fukuyama looks very embarrassed by the exceedingly undiplomatic tone of his Ostlander colleague but by the time he gets to the podium, he appears largely unfazed.

Honourable delegates,

Allow me first to express my joy and the joy of the entire citizenry of the United Imperial Crownlands at the end of apartheid in Ostland and congratulate wholeheartedly the Independent Crownland of Ostland-Touryou on this milestone. We are simply overjoyed and deeply honoured to be the first nation to have recognised their new constitutional status and His Imperial and Heavenly Majesty, Emperor Morihito, is deeply humbled by the respect shown to him in the sixth Crownland, independent for centuries but still close kin to those of us in the United Imperial Crownlands.

I cannot for my people's stereotypical love of propriety echo the exact words of the delegation of Ostland-Touryou, but I most certainly share the sentiment that Nimitz must be removed and tried for his crimes against humanity sooner rather than later! We are doing what we can, as we consider these people to be our citizens, to relieve the suffering of our compatriots behind the Heinrich line, but Commandant Gubler and the brave men and women of the Reichsbürgerwehr can only do so much! I implore you to act and help us reclaim our homeland, so we can, like Ostland-Touryou before us, reclaim our historic democratic heritage and see the white, purple and green fly over Hulstria and Gao-Soto once more.

Since I have not yet done so at this podium I would like to humbly thank the Republic of Indra for its recognition of our government. It may seem odd but I do remember my trip to the Towering and Emerald Isle fondly, even if I had to wage a spirited debate to get this universal recognition from their legislature. From the bottom of my heart, thank you.

I thank the chair and yield.
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Re: General Assembly

Postby Martinulus » Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:36 pm

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Re: General Assembly

Postby Martinulus » Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:15 pm

Mgr. Tullius Flaminius, Apostolic Delegate of the Holy See of St. Michael (APC)

Honourable delegates, peace be with you.

His Holiness Quirinus XIII, the Arch-Patriarch, is pleased with the resolution currently before the Security Council as proposed by the delegation of Istalia. We would, however, like to draw attention to the threats the Selucian regime has made against the sanctity and sovereignty of the seat of the Holy See, the Empyrean City State in Auroria. Word is that there are plans to capture and imprison His Holiness and to annex the territory. We urge the Security Council to guarantee the sovereignty of the Empyrean City State, and to take this into consideration when censuring Selucia.
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