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Re: Security Council (OOC: authorised participants only)

Postby jamescfm » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:12 pm

Though I hold no specific powers, I urge all Security Council members to respect the democratic wishes of Terra. It is completely unfair that Baltusia and Istalia should seek to have Kalistan (or any other nation) excluded from the process due to their disagreement with said nations views. While some may favour a multilateral approach which incorporates the Security Council, the World Congress is a place where all views should be respected. Complete isolationism is a legitimate foreign policy and should not be undermined. A situation could arise in which nations elect a particular nation because they want to send a message of non-cooperation. Again, I urge members not to risk triggering legal chaos by legislating to overrule the result of a democratic mandate.

We await the decisions of Luthori, Kalistan and Hutori on Resolution 18.

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Re: Security Council (OOC: authorised participants only)

Postby colonelvesica » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:16 pm

The Federal Republic of Hutori Votes Aye on Resolution 18.

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Re: Security Council (OOC: authorised participants only)

Postby jamescfm » Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:29 pm

With the necessary three aye votes, Resolution 18 is passed.

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Re: Security Council (OOC: authorised participants only)

Postby Axxell » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:04 am

Hon. Collegues,

The situation in Rutania is becoming an international issue which could unleash a conflict even more extend which could involve most part of the Nations which are going in Rutania to aupport one or the other field.
To avoid an international, if not world, war, we call all the Security Council Member to active themself to face this threat.

My Government, until now very busy with the national emergency which Istalia has experiencing, want show to the Security Council its support for the Republican field, not only for ideological positions, but because it is clear how the responsability of this conflict fall on the Monarchists: they didn't respect the will of people democratically expressed which gave the majority of Parliament to the Republicans.

But a part take measures against the monarchists, we have to act as soon as possible to intervene in Rutania and stop the battle and the death of even more people.
So, I propose that Security Council invites all the foreign forces to retire from the field, then the organization of a Peacekeeping mission and the opening of a conference between the part in neutral nation.

But, te Government of Istalia will present soon also a Resolution to comdamn the Monarchists leaders for crime of war and to be recognized responsable of the civil war: here the only that are fighting to defend the right of the people to choise their government are the Republicans and their former parliamentary majority confirmed it.

About the conference, Istalia pose clear limit: tendencially we prefer to not have a Taller on the throne of Rutania, but if the conference could be useful to find a compromises between the part, and this compromise cannot avoid the establishment of the Monarchy, but we prefer that it will be the very last solution, the only possibility for us to accept a Taller is that his figure will be ONLY CERIMONIAL, with all the executive power on the hand of the Government expression of the Parliament majority or of post-electoral coalitions; and other things: all paramilitary forces have to be permanently banned from Rutania, because my Government recognizes similar organization responsable.

Thank you

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Re: Security Council (OOC: authorised participants only)

Postby Axxell » Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:38 am

Hon. Collegues,

Istalia previously proposed to intervene between the two parties in conflict in Rutania with a neutral stance, it is true, and we hope all the members will support it (so to create a specific resolution to give to the General Secretary all the tools to lead the negotiations and the operations), but, as also previously announced, Istalia cannot close its eyes about the responsabilities and the serious actions perpetuated by the Monarchical Forces which we accuse of:

- have initiated the hostilities, then we consider them responsible for having precipitated Rutania into civil war.

- not having respected the will of the people democratically expressed during the last national elections which saw the Monarchical Forces outnumbered compared the Republican Forces or those currently neutral.

For this reason Istalia present to the SC first of all this resolution firmly believing in the fact that the World Congress shall give its support to the democracy and to the democratic process.
Despite the desires of all the political forces and parties all over the nations of Terra, if they decide to run in democratic elections, they declared their commitment in recognizing the results of the elections and their respect for the will of the voters, whatever the result of elections, favorable or not for them.
The Monarchical forces, represented by the Wing Party and by the Conservative Party, aimed by motivation which personally my Nation believe simply archaic and contradictory, against all human and political principle according to which every human being and every citizen of every nation in the world shall be recognized equal in rights and duties, are clearly disregarded principles to which this Organization has repeatedly expressed his loyalty.

For all these reason, Istalia present the following Resolution:

Resolution 19

Guided by the principles of peace and prosperity for all Terra,

Firmly believing in the values and principles of the democracy and the equality of all human beings in dignity, duties and rights,

Expressing grave concern about the civil war recently started in Rutania and which are involved even more foreign forces,

Acknowledging the criminal actions perpetuated by the Monarchical Forces, which constitute a direct attack against the principles of the democracy and an open disregard of the will of the Rutanian citizens and a violation of their political liberties,

Recognizing the responsabilities for the civil war to the Monarchical Forces,

THE SECURITY COUNCIL

1. Condemns the Monarchical Forces of Rutania for their actions which threatens the national peace and stability of Rutanian and went against the democratically expressed will of the rutanian people;

2. Demands to the Monarchical Forces to put an immediate end to hostilities, to dissolve any militia or paramilitary monarchical force end to recognize the executive of Rutania expressed by the last Parliament as the only legitimate Government of Rutania;

3. Supports the Republican Forces for their determination to make respect the will of the people democratically expressed;

4. Declares to recognize the government which the Republican Forces expressed after the last elections as the only legitimate Government of Rutania;

5. Requires that the leaders of the Monarchical Forces will be officially accused to be war criminals and will be therefore judged by a court which will demonstrate their responsibilities and will condemn them adequately for their actions;

6. Requires furthermore that all the foreign nations involved directly or indirectly in the conflict will withdraw their forces by the Rutanian territory and their indirect support to both the warring forces.

But furthermore the SECURITY COUNCIL in order to

ensure the compliance with the provisions of this resolution by the parties in conflict,

ensure that the provisions of this resolution will be respected especially by the Monarchical Forces, in order to assure the respect of the will democratically expressed by the Rutanian people,

avoid however any form of vengeance or retaliatory actions outside of the principles of a fair and impartial justice by part of the Republican Forces,

invests the GENERAL SECRETARY of the responsability to

1. organize a peacekeeping mission to pacify the Rutanian territory in cooperation with the Republican forces,

2. support the extension throughout the Rutanian territory of the authority and sovereignty of the legitimate Government represented by the Republican Forces,

3. ensure afterwards a comprehensive disarmament of the military as well as paramilitary forces of the Monarchical Forces but also a considerable reduction in the forces of the legitimate Government,

4. supervise the normalization of the situation is carried out with respect for democratic rules in cooperation with the legitimate Government

5. supervise on the organization of a fair and impartial trial by part of the legitimate Government for judge the leaders of the Monarchical Forces for war crimes and for the responsability of the civil war.
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Re: Security Council (OOC: authorised participants only)

Postby colonelvesica » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:11 pm

Hon. Colleagues

This Resolution is passing from the realm of keeping the leave to imposing peace. We are, by force of arms, enforcing a Sovereign nation outlaw Paramilitaries, forcing a reduction of their Armed Forces, and unilaterally choosing a side within a Civil War, by assisting in "pacifying" areas not under control of Republic Forces.

As this Resolution is currently written the Federal Republic of Hutori can not support it and Votes Nay.

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Re: Security Council (OOC: authorised participants only)

Postby stuntmonkey » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:21 pm

For similar reasons to our honourable friend from Hutori Baltusia cannot vote yes to resolution 19 in its current form.

Therefore, Baltusia Abstains.

Patricia Grayson, Baltusian Ambassador to the World Congress
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Re: Security Council (OOC: authorised participants only)

Postby kj#2 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:17 pm

OOC: I would like to interject and clarify that the execution of Timothy FeinWright was not murder of the opposition. Timothy FeinWright was a captured assassin who murdered a former Whig government cabinet member (minister of trade and industry) His execution was ordered against the will of the legislature however.
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Re: Security Council (OOC: authorised participants only)

Postby Axxell » Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:54 pm

OOC: ops... Sorry, I will modify the resolution to delete the reference to this
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Re: Security Council (OOC: authorised participants only)

Postby Axxell » Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:50 am

Hon. Collegues,

Indeed was a provocation, in fact I only proposed it but Istalia doesn't vote it and previously I proposed a more neutral stance. So, honorable collegues, what your Governments propose to face the escalation in Rutania?
With even more foreign forces on place day by day increase the risk that two of these foreign forces collide and could unleash an international conflict.
We want proced with a conference between the two parties? They will accept? And we should propose a ceasefire? They will accept? And we should ask "what do you want?" to the two parties also if we know very well the objectives of the two parties but give equal validity to the two parties' requests?
One party say: "we want a monarchs and we want for some individuals more rights than other citizens"
The other party say: "we want maintain our system" (a republic with no special power for some individuals)

But, a part this particular situation, I have a question for my collegues, just to open a reflection: what is your idea of democracy?
I want propose you a situation:
We have a nation X, in the nation X there are elections between two parties (A and B); the party B win the elections, so, if we intend in the same way the idea of democracy, the party B has all the right to form a Government, right? So it proceed to install the new Government.
But the party A is angry, is disappointed, so it say: "I don't care of the results of the elections and of what have chosen the citizens, I want proceed with my policies, so I decide to organize a coup to make fall the Nation into a civil war and impose with the force my policies".

Immagine you if in your Nations each time a party or a group of parties that didn't win the elections decide to procede in the same way of the party A.
Do you think that in a Democracy is this an acceptable behavior?
And I would like ask another think: this organization, on what is founded? This security council how it work? There is a system of endorsement to chose the members, right? And the members to take decisions vote resolution after resolution, right?
What if one or two members disappointed by the vote decide to ignore it and proceed how they want? Or, if a Nation fail to be elected for the security council but it is disappointed, has it the right to try to conquest the place with force? Maybe menacing other Nation to gain more endorsement?
And given the history of this organization we can assume that it take in high consideration the democratic system of Government and many times the WC defended this system and even tried to improve it. Right?

So, why we should not consider these "little" details? What ever did and happens if there are two parties in conflict, internal to a nation or between two or more nations, why we should not consider the actions, the responsabilities, the stance of the parties? And another thing, valid especially in case of internal conflictc: apart what want the parties in conflict, should we consider at least what want the citizens, the main victimes of similar conflicts?
In the specific case of this conflict in Rutania, the parties were divided on the central issue that sparked this conflict already before the elections, right?
The coalition A proposed a reform, the coalition B was against. The coalition B gained the majority of the electoral support, the majority of Parliament, so it proceeded with the formation of a Government. The coalition A failed in elections, it find itself in minority (and to proceed with the changement it proposes it needs of even more than the simple majority, that however they had not gained), but in any case it decide to ignore the electoral results and to proceed with a violent attempt to size the power.
How do you consider a similar behavior?

Ladies and Gentlement, I warn you, we can proceed with a decidedly more neutral approach, but, should this Organization give the same space to the two parties? Should this organization offer equal right to put on the table the requests of the two parts? Should this Organization consider the requests of these two parties in the same way, ie with equal dignity and with equal validity? Are these two parties supported by the equal resonable reasons?
Should this Organization give the same validity to the requests of parties in conflict also if they have not equal validity? Because, dear collegues, if someone here consider the use of the force a reasonable way to rise to the power to enforce their policies, if here someone consider acceptable that a party in a democracy can perfectly ignore the electoral results and so the popular will proceding with violent actions, we can stop here and avoid to lose time in discussions which would become political philosophy debates.
And if we must at this point begin a debate on what is a democracy, what is an acceptable democratic behavior, what is a democratic culture, but, most important, if we should or not support the democratic systems and the democratic culture and beheviors, we would accept a formal relativistic run of the work of this organization and especially we would give support to dangerous relativistic interpretation of ideas, concepts and values, such that, for example, anyone could easily decide to consider slavery as a normal practice because he considers it a valid proposal.
This should be the position of this organization? Then, all resolutions, condemnations, procedures, etc... that have been adopted by this organization, how should we consider them? What should we do? Why should they have value? Each position, opinion, political or ethical idea would therefore have the same validity and dignity of being supported? If someone decide to put in place, for example, a genocide but there is some that are opposed to this idea, what should we have to do? Should we consider to hear the position of the part that propose the genocide and so consider its position valid to be put on the negotiation table?

We should decide what behavior and consideration of ideas, principles, and values should have this Organization dear collegues, because, if we want support a relativistic approach, we can also dissolve this organization and let to all the nations and all the parties, mouvements, political forces, etc... of all these nation to do what they want!
There is a persecution and a genocide into a nation? Ok! There is a coup where a political force decide to size the power with the violence without consider the popular will? Perfect! There is a nation that want proceed with the invasion of another nation? Go on! If we decide to give the same space to the involved parties and give the same importance to the reasons of the two involved parties, everyone in this world would feel perfectly entitled to do anything it wants, because in anyway will only need to sit down around a table and maybe be able to earn something because its position would be valid to be heard and supported because for him it is a valid position.

So, why have an Organization like the WC if we accept that there is not foundamental values and principles on which found this Organization? So, what are the principles of this Organization for you? I think that have principles and values is foundamental if we want have the claim to be entitled to mediate between opposing parties, and to mediate it should have something like that to be able to evaluate applications of the conflicting parties.
Why should we condemn, for example, slavery or genocide if we don't recognize principles and values on which we believe and which gave us the yardstick for deciding whether to condemn or not an action?

Do we want to go against the idea to have foundamental principles and values on which base this Organization? Well... We can say us godbye here and we can say godbye to all the Resolutions, it was nice!

Thank you for the time, sorry for the little digression, now we give the stage to who want propose how to face the situation in Rutania, thank you.

~ Riccardo Malzi di Arenese, Istalian Ambassador to the World Congress
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