by Axxell » Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:50 am
Hon. Collegues,
Indeed was a provocation, in fact I only proposed it but Istalia doesn't vote it and previously I proposed a more neutral stance. So, honorable collegues, what your Governments propose to face the escalation in Rutania?
With even more foreign forces on place day by day increase the risk that two of these foreign forces collide and could unleash an international conflict.
We want proced with a conference between the two parties? They will accept? And we should propose a ceasefire? They will accept? And we should ask "what do you want?" to the two parties also if we know very well the objectives of the two parties but give equal validity to the two parties' requests?
One party say: "we want a monarchs and we want for some individuals more rights than other citizens"
The other party say: "we want maintain our system" (a republic with no special power for some individuals)
But, a part this particular situation, I have a question for my collegues, just to open a reflection: what is your idea of democracy?
I want propose you a situation:
We have a nation X, in the nation X there are elections between two parties (A and B); the party B win the elections, so, if we intend in the same way the idea of democracy, the party B has all the right to form a Government, right? So it proceed to install the new Government.
But the party A is angry, is disappointed, so it say: "I don't care of the results of the elections and of what have chosen the citizens, I want proceed with my policies, so I decide to organize a coup to make fall the Nation into a civil war and impose with the force my policies".
Immagine you if in your Nations each time a party or a group of parties that didn't win the elections decide to procede in the same way of the party A.
Do you think that in a Democracy is this an acceptable behavior?
And I would like ask another think: this organization, on what is founded? This security council how it work? There is a system of endorsement to chose the members, right? And the members to take decisions vote resolution after resolution, right?
What if one or two members disappointed by the vote decide to ignore it and proceed how they want? Or, if a Nation fail to be elected for the security council but it is disappointed, has it the right to try to conquest the place with force? Maybe menacing other Nation to gain more endorsement?
And given the history of this organization we can assume that it take in high consideration the democratic system of Government and many times the WC defended this system and even tried to improve it. Right?
So, why we should not consider these "little" details? What ever did and happens if there are two parties in conflict, internal to a nation or between two or more nations, why we should not consider the actions, the responsabilities, the stance of the parties? And another thing, valid especially in case of internal conflictc: apart what want the parties in conflict, should we consider at least what want the citizens, the main victimes of similar conflicts?
In the specific case of this conflict in Rutania, the parties were divided on the central issue that sparked this conflict already before the elections, right?
The coalition A proposed a reform, the coalition B was against. The coalition B gained the majority of the electoral support, the majority of Parliament, so it proceeded with the formation of a Government. The coalition A failed in elections, it find itself in minority (and to proceed with the changement it proposes it needs of even more than the simple majority, that however they had not gained), but in any case it decide to ignore the electoral results and to proceed with a violent attempt to size the power.
How do you consider a similar behavior?
Ladies and Gentlement, I warn you, we can proceed with a decidedly more neutral approach, but, should this Organization give the same space to the two parties? Should this organization offer equal right to put on the table the requests of the two parts? Should this Organization consider the requests of these two parties in the same way, ie with equal dignity and with equal validity? Are these two parties supported by the equal resonable reasons?
Should this Organization give the same validity to the requests of parties in conflict also if they have not equal validity? Because, dear collegues, if someone here consider the use of the force a reasonable way to rise to the power to enforce their policies, if here someone consider acceptable that a party in a democracy can perfectly ignore the electoral results and so the popular will proceding with violent actions, we can stop here and avoid to lose time in discussions which would become political philosophy debates.
And if we must at this point begin a debate on what is a democracy, what is an acceptable democratic behavior, what is a democratic culture, but, most important, if we should or not support the democratic systems and the democratic culture and beheviors, we would accept a formal relativistic run of the work of this organization and especially we would give support to dangerous relativistic interpretation of ideas, concepts and values, such that, for example, anyone could easily decide to consider slavery as a normal practice because he considers it a valid proposal.
This should be the position of this organization? Then, all resolutions, condemnations, procedures, etc... that have been adopted by this organization, how should we consider them? What should we do? Why should they have value? Each position, opinion, political or ethical idea would therefore have the same validity and dignity of being supported? If someone decide to put in place, for example, a genocide but there is some that are opposed to this idea, what should we have to do? Should we consider to hear the position of the part that propose the genocide and so consider its position valid to be put on the negotiation table?
We should decide what behavior and consideration of ideas, principles, and values should have this Organization dear collegues, because, if we want support a relativistic approach, we can also dissolve this organization and let to all the nations and all the parties, mouvements, political forces, etc... of all these nation to do what they want!
There is a persecution and a genocide into a nation? Ok! There is a coup where a political force decide to size the power with the violence without consider the popular will? Perfect! There is a nation that want proceed with the invasion of another nation? Go on! If we decide to give the same space to the involved parties and give the same importance to the reasons of the two involved parties, everyone in this world would feel perfectly entitled to do anything it wants, because in anyway will only need to sit down around a table and maybe be able to earn something because its position would be valid to be heard and supported because for him it is a valid position.
So, why have an Organization like the WC if we accept that there is not foundamental values and principles on which found this Organization? So, what are the principles of this Organization for you? I think that have principles and values is foundamental if we want have the claim to be entitled to mediate between opposing parties, and to mediate it should have something like that to be able to evaluate applications of the conflicting parties.
Why should we condemn, for example, slavery or genocide if we don't recognize principles and values on which we believe and which gave us the yardstick for deciding whether to condemn or not an action?
Do we want to go against the idea to have foundamental principles and values on which base this Organization? Well... We can say us godbye here and we can say godbye to all the Resolutions, it was nice!
Thank you for the time, sorry for the little digression, now we give the stage to who want propose how to face the situation in Rutania, thank you.
~ Riccardo Malzi di Arenese, Istalian Ambassador to the World Congress
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