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Re: 50th General Assembly Session

Postby alaskancrabpuffs21 » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:40 am

General Hasimou Kinteh Supreme Representative from the Democratic Republic of Ntoto

Today Vascania will be annexing Rapa Pile, a sovereign country for many years in the past. Vanscania has shown its true colors, no world power can be trusted both inside of Dovani and outside. We demand that the SC takes action to this situation and that Vascania withdraws from the region permanently for the good of the international order and peace.
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Re: 50th General Assembly Session

Postby Pragma » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:44 am

Tarabai Ghadhaabi, Vascanian representative to the World Congress

General Kinteh, we are the region.
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Re: 50th General Assembly Session

Postby jamescfm » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:58 am

Image Ms. Margaret Brown, Tropican Permanent Representative to the World Congress:
Tropica would like to urge the representative from Ntoto to reconsider their previous comments. In light of recent discussions in this institution, it should be clear that rushing to conclusions without all of the evidence is a dangerous thing to do. At this point the claims of annexation are simply unfounded, nothing more than rumour exist on the matter at the moment. Even those rumours do not suggest any action by the Vascanian government that extends beyond democratic consultation of the people of Rapa Pile.
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Re: 50th General Assembly Session

Postby Polites » Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:43 pm

Image Senatrix Maria Cassia Aquilina, Envoy of the Selucian Senate to the World Congress:

Selucia notes with concern the fact that Vascania, until now a trustworthy defender of the interests of the East and the rights of its indigenous peoples, has fallen victim to the virus of imperial aggrandizement. Rapa Pile is a sovereign nation and Vascania has no business infringing on its right to self-determination. This is a threat to world peace and we second Ntoto's call for the Security Council to intervene.
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Re: 50th General Assembly Session

Postby robmark0000 » Fri Dec 18, 2020 6:05 pm

Image Ms. Vászoly Csenge
Grand Director of Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Second Directorial Republic of Endralon

Okay, I am here for you to make everything clear as Endralon, the leading influential member of the Security Council. First I would react on the Deltarian base in Medina topic, because me and my country got a tone of insulting and fake news into our face, and the face of the Honorable Persons all across this August Body. We can't let lies spread in honorable minds all across the world, this is why we need to make things clear on this case. Also, we will react on the Vascanian 'annexation' (its a strong word for that) of Rapa Pile, that topic also sorrounded by false claims, information and malicious deception.

Deltarian base in Medina - Our final words

1. Deltarian lies
"As far as the Endralonian delegation is concerned, we are pleased that they have revealed their true nature. Listen carefully to their words. "Even if" Medina invited the construction of the Deltarian base, "it won't make a difference" to Endralon because they do not care about respecting the wishes of the Medinese population, they only care about their own economic interests."

For the record, the quoted sentence sounded like this from us: "If Medina asked the Deltarian Federation to protect its borders, why I don't hear the Medinian delegation confirming this? And even if they did, it won't make a difference, that Deltaria exploits the developing countries."

On the contrary, Ms. Fodor, you were the ones revealing your true nature. That if you are out of arguments and good points, you using the most dangerous propaganda tools, using text out of context, spreading fake news and misinformation. My sentence is objectively true (and for the record also, Medina still do not presented a representative who would talk about the Medinian joyful approval of the Deltarian base; this could mean that Medina wasn't so happy to allow this for their imperialistic big brother). Deltaria uses its economic presence and domination in Dovani (across the Dovani Economic Initiative) to force its military presence on the affected countries, who are strongly relay on the mentioned DEI. And last time I checked the dictionary, it is called EXPLOITATION. Exploit the unfortunate situation of the developing countries who relay on you.

And your reference that you are fulfill the wish of the Medinian population is ridiculous; you at least could fulfill an oligarchic elite's wishes from Medina, because based on the most trusted international reports, Medina is a hardline hybrid regime, closer to the full dictatorship than flawed democracy. We understand that on this planet every nation couldn't be democratic or at least more democratic, and that Medina has a legitimate, international recognized leadership, even if it is not democratic, but then please, leave these unequivocal lies that you representing the POPULATION of that country. Because you are clearly not.

2. Nonsense from the delegation of Ntoto
The next sentences are golden, I guess when the Honorable Person from Ntoto wrote and presented them, there were no people from the Endralonian delegation who wouldn't laugh: "I apologize for returning so fast and making another statement but I feel I need to provide a different perspective. The Endralonian delegation thinks that they are the great "savior" of the Third World. As a Third World nation we see your actions as attempt to keep Deltaria, a rival military power out of an area that I believe Endralon would love to swoop in and take for themselves. This is a coincidence that Endralon is attempting to keep Deltaria out of Medina, the same country that Endralon, strong armed when they wouldn't play Endralon's game. Since this is the same regime that did that stunt we have no trust in Endralon in this part of the world and your attempts on being the leader of peace and prosperity for Terra are laughable, even a contrevsial nation like Dolgava has more integrity then Endralon does. Endralon should not be speaking for Dovani, as they think they are. They are using the same high and mighty attitude as Deltaria is. They are not a good example of a peacemaker and we see your attempt on appeasing us as laughable, we know what you and your, "3M" did and we are not falling for your shenanigans twice. Foreign powers from outside of Dovani are fighting over a problem we face. Endralon should refrain from fighting for the nations of Dovani because you are not the standard for a successful country in Terra and you have had your own imperialistic ambitions in this region. They blame Deltaria for the things that they did and they do not take into account our feelings toward Endralon. Endralon is a empire masquerading as a "republic" and see this move as a security concern for themselves. They do not take into account our feelings on this topic. No outside country should have troops and bases in this region and that is final, but Endralon should not be leading the charge on this one, they don't care about this issue, they are just waiting for a Dovani country to allow their own army to be stationed here. Nothing more, nothing less"

And of course when we saw President Lafi Ogoo's tweeted post later on that afternoon, that doesn't helped us stop laughing. This kind of bigot anti-Endralon propaganda is rare unfortunately (because then the international community would see that Endralon is just attacked, because we are speaking the truth and rights things), however definitely golden and a piece of history. You are trying to make Endralon the worst thing ever happened to Terra, at all costs, even if you are directly or indirectly playing by the hands of an another great power that is even more dangerous to you.

(About the tweet, the President blaming Endralon for fighting for Dovani in the World Congress, however finishes his sentence with the #GettheTroopsOut hashtag, that is a definitely an anti-Deltarian stuff. So the essence is, get the Deltarian troops out, but they're not the ones we are blaming, because we are blaming Endralon for everything. I wouldn't be surprised if next time - not necessarily somebody from Ntoto, but from other countries - would blame the Directorial Republic because it is raining, or because it is snowning, or because we cannot live forever and etcetera. The best word is nonsense, I guess.)

First, I do not shame that Endralon does not match Deltaria in military affairs. Calling Endralon a rival to Deltaria on (and just on this one thing) military affairs is more than unrealistic and other things I won't say, because Endralon on its own even just almost an average military power, however based on our influence all across the world, but especially on our region, we do not need strong military to protect ourselves. I think if it only would matters on military, Ntoto would have a large chance against Endralon to invade, if you are know my meaning. In other hand, Endralon never launched military bases on foreign soil, outside its two neighboring and really close countries, Kundrati and Davostan, and this is mutual with both of them. I declare here, that Endralon MILITARILY has no interests in the developing world, in the entire planet except our Northeast-Artanian region with the goal to defend ourselves only. So no, Honorable Person from Ntoto, Endralon is NOT doing that the next: if it successfully repealed the Deltarian base from Medina, would right after build an another one just with Endralonian banner. Its still nonsense.

About the 3M-Medina dispute, you could find more information from one of our previous answers: "Endralon and Medina have good, indifferent and average international relations, and the case you mentioning happened almost a century ago, when you weren't born (me neither), so it is quite irrelevant, many many things could change in a century (Endralon in this year signed a treaty with Vascania about fair trade in the southeast region of the developing world, including Medina). And to be proper, our condemnation do not mention Medina a single time; it mentions the Deltarian Federation. The Security Council has nothing problem with Medina, it has problem with your imperialistic behavior."

The accusations about we would build an imperialistic colonial empire, are almost science-fiction. Endralonian corporations and Endralon itself have some relations with the developing countries, but we are clearly focusing on developed countries with our trade, especially to avoid accusations such as 'imperialist, 'colonialist' and etcetara. We have only strong economic relations with Vascania (a developed country), Liore (a developed country also), Utembo, Kimlien, Mina and New Alduria, and these 6 countries are just 6 countries from more than 20 ones. And in the mentioned countries, we respect that we are on foreign soil if we trade with them. Ask the affected ones, if you don't believe.

Also, it is pretty clear that Ntoto and Liore (not having common borders with Medina) are speaking from a position of safety, while Utembo and Vascania (both countries bordering Medina) are actually has a Deltarian imperialistic military base in their neighborhood from a day to an another. This is why the outrage of the Ntoto delegation is hypocratical and pharisaical. I would just say that your capital is in not the fire range of the Deltarian base (also Liore's doesn't), but Utembo's and Vascania's are in the fire range of a nuclear weapon, and God shall secure the hands of the Deltarians that they won't use that nuclear trigger.

The proposal condemning Deltaria will stay, and if it is up to us, it will be accepted as a World Congress Security Council Resolution.

The Rapa Pile Problem

1. Ntoto again, Gods help us
It is quite interesting, that Ntoto, that bagatized the problem of the Deltarian base in Medina with ridiculously blaming Endralon for everything, now totally outraged because a great power in the SAME region, trying to provide closer ties with one of its semi-autonomous states. I don't know that you playing by the hands of Deltarians directly, or simply just I won't say anything, but it is clear that your activity here only a step back for the case of the developing countries, and even if Endralon, a country from an another corner of the world recognize this, why can't you?

2. We would ask the Vascanian representative to stay official
The reaction "General Kinteh, we are the region." maybe will become a meme well deserved, or a famous historical sentence, but still it is a little kind of pompous. We understand the frustration of yours, but geographically, the nations of continent Temania, and the nations of South-Dovani are considered to be in the same region with the Empire. Please, Honorable Person from Vascania, moderate yourself, and do not claim your country an entire region. The Ntoto delegation is a very - hard to find words - provoking one, but still, we shall stay calm to find the proper solution.

3. The Tropican representative is right
We concur with the attitude of the Tropican delegation. Yes, that we need is to stay calm and make sure we heard about any potent and important news about the case. The information we need to find out to properly judge the situation: (1) Is the Vascanian presence against the will of the Pilese population (2) Will Vascania trying to 'annex' the Islands with the help of military force (3) What is the legitimacy of this situation? I think we should only search before properly step in this situation, because currently there is no risk of genocide or violation of human rights, at the case.

4. Ms. Senator, you are misinformed
You are really misinformed, Honorable Person from Selucia, because Rapa Pile is NOT a sovereign nation-state. It is joined to the Vascanian Empire after a bloody civil war in its soil, and this step brought peace to the Islands. I would also recommend you to read the constitution of Rapa Pile as a state of the Vascanian Empire, that would clear the legitimacy of the Vascanian Throne there. Even if Vascania desires to make closer ties with Rapa Pile, or maybe get back its autonomy rights, based on the Pilese people's former decision, the Vascanian Emperor will have strong legitimacy to do so. But we hope it is not the case.

The Endralonian delegation in the World Congress Security Council won't make a resolution about this case yet.
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Re: 50th General Assembly Session

Postby Polites » Fri Dec 18, 2020 6:39 pm

Image Senatrix Maria Cassia Aquilina, Envoy of the Selucian Senate to the World Congress:

Thank you for your clarification Honorable Vászoly Csenge, Rapa Pile is indeed an autonomous member of the Vascanian Empire, and I apologize for my factual error. The fact remains however that a move to remove Rapa Pile's autonomy is needlessly provocative, and Selucia expresses her concern regarding Vascanian actions.
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Re: 50th General Assembly Session

Postby jamescfm » Fri Dec 18, 2020 6:54 pm

Image Ms. Fodor Blanka*, Representative to the World Congress of the Deltarian Federation:
Deltaria is not commenting further on this matter. Frankly, it is a waste of time. Endralon does not care about the desires of the Medinese people, they only care about their own political agenda. Endralon is perfectly happy to station troops in foreign countries but thinks that Deltaria should not be allowed to do. Endralon only wants to engage in trade with developed countries, they don't care about the developing world. As it happens we knew all this already but again, we thank the Endralonian delegation for clarifying. Deltaria will continue to ignore their unwarranted advice.

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Re: 50th General Assembly Session

Postby robmark0000 » Fri Dec 18, 2020 7:57 pm

Image Ms. Vászoly Csenge
Grand Director of Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Second Directorial Republic of Endralon

Honorable Person from Deltaria, as I mentioned you do not represent the Medinese people's will, you do represent a little Medinese oligarchy's will (we don't deny that this oligarchy legitimately represent the country and internationally recognized), because Medina is not a democratic country. It won't be true even if you saying this a thousands times. Your analogy with Endralon would be okay, if Medina would have a military base on your soil, and as I guess, there isn't a Medinese base in your soil. Because however we have troops both in Kundrati and Davostan, there is also Kundrati and Unionite forces in our soil.

"Endralon only wants to engage in trade with developed countries, they don't care about the developing world." this is also really ridiculous, by-the-way. If you and the Ntoto representative would run a humorous talk show I would definitely watch it on every Sundays.
When Endralon trading fairly with developing countries, and the fair trade ensured by a treaty with Vascania with great prestige, then Endralon is 'colonialist'. When Endralon to avoid this defamatory mark, starting to focus on developed countries, Endralon also 'colonialist', because don't trade with developing countries so much. So, you are starting to use the 'blame Endralon for everything' rhetoric? It will be funny, but definitely not constructive, so I guess we shall leave this rhetoric alone.

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Re: 50th General Assembly Session

Postby ChitinKal » Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:49 pm

Neema Oyenusi, World Congress Representative of the Socialist State of Liore
The Liori delegation concurs our Tropican comrades in that we must not jump to conclusions, and we thank the Endralonian representative who in her long, rambling diatribe did produce a kernel of truth in that Rapa Pile is not an independent state but an autonomous region of the Vascanian Empire, though we reject the assertion that the Pilese people's referendum to join Vascania nearly a century ago grants legitimacy today to a unilateral revocation of their autonomy. I must admit I am surprised that the Endralonian delegation, who represents a nation that claims to champion republicanism and denounces the rule of monarchs, would assert that it is within the legitimate power of a monarch to unilaterally strip the rights and autonomy of his subjects.

To the Vascanian delegation, I find it hypocritical and almost betraying the way you speak of your eastern comrades, as if Vascania is our master and the only nation of note in the region. Such is the very rhetoric of the western imperialists our two nations are supposed to defend our comrades against. Liore remains opposed to the imperialization of our continent, whether it come from the west or from our own neighbors, and we will continue to defend Dovani against imperialists. We would recommend to our Vascanian comrades, who we have worked so amicably with in recent years, to drop this corrupt rhetoric and view of the East, to do so would keep Vascania on the path of righteousness.
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Re: 50th General Assembly Session

Postby robmark0000 » Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:08 pm

Image Ms. Vászoly Csenge
Grand Director of Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Second Directorial Republic of Endralon

Honorable Person from Liore, thank you for your compliment first, I appreciate it.

I talked about international and national legitimacy. Based on the internationally recognized national laws of both Rapa Pile and the Empire, the Vascanian Throne is a legitimate authority over the Islands. We are indeed the champions of republicanism all across the world, but in international politics we have to accept that there is different nations, different cultures, and from these different countries some are unfortunately monarchist. Just as the World Congress have to tolerate the presence of the representatives of hybrid regimes and dictatorships here, to contribute properly to world peace. What we international politicians have to accept that based on national laws of both Rapa Pile and Vascania, I repeat, the Vascanian Throne have authority over the Rapa Pile Special Administrative State.

The current Pilese Constitution says in preamble: "Based on the Constitution of the Vascanian Empire, we, the People of the Rapa Pile Special Administrative State, faithfuls of His Imperial Majesty, Manas III announce, that we live based on the respect of the next Constitution and the Constitution of the Vascanian Empire."

This means that the Constitution of the Vascanian Empire (that provides authority for the Vascanian Emperor to do things like this) is also relevant in Pilese national law, so it is maybe unfair and undemocratic, still legitimate. What about you, champions of national sovereignty, is your voice stuck this time?
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