Particracy Forum

Auditorii wrote:Can it be assumed since every nation is apart of the World Congress that we all have diplomatic affairs with each other? i.e embassies, consulates and the like?

Not necessarily.

Why is the Security Council discussing matters that should be in the World congress for everyone to participate in?

Examples:

Second half - viewtopic.php?f=15&t=6913&start=190#p114170
Whole post - viewtopic.php?f=15&t=6913&start=190#p114710

Auditorii wrote:Why is the Security Council discussing matters that should be in the World congress for everyone to participate in?

Examples:

Second half - viewtopic.php?f=15&t=6913&start=190#p114170
Whole post - viewtopic.php?f=15&t=6913&start=190#p114710

What's stopping the General Assembly from discussing those matters? In this case, the Security Council decided to discuss them but if nobody in the General Assembly wants to they're not obliged to.

jamescfm wrote:

Auditorii wrote:Why is the Security Council discussing matters that should be in the World congress for everyone to participate in?

Examples:

Second half - viewtopic.php?f=15&t=6913&start=190#p114170
Whole post - viewtopic.php?f=15&t=6913&start=190#p114710

What's stopping the General Assembly from discussing those matters? In this case, the Security Council decided to discuss them but if nobody in the General Assembly wants to they're not obliged to.

Nothing but isn't there suppose to be oversight? I made a proposal in the WC and only one person responded, it's been 2 weeks roughly since anyone responded.

I've put together a thread outlining the refined structure of the World Congress. Most of the changes are minor and won't affect how the institution functions but I invite all players to read through the post nonetheless.

This months elections will be posted tommorow. Just a heads up.

FPC wrote:This months elections will be posted tommorow. Just a heads up.

Was the vote tally counted on the 1st though? I know one country in particular still had votes being conducted at midnight eastern US time or after. If those late votes are counted, they could flip the outcome for Seat E.

I've always had an urge to suggest that we standardize the count time (probably as midnight Central Europe Time since that's the game system's time zone) to avoid any controversy. That way, even if the Mods weren't able to post the count at that precise time, at least anyone online could take screenshots to prove the vote totals.

CCP wrote:

FPC wrote:This months elections will be posted tommorow. Just a heads up.

Was the vote tally counted on the 1st though? I know one country in particular still had votes being conducted at midnight eastern US time or after. If those late votes are counted, they could flip the outcome for Seat E.

I've always had an urge to suggest that we standardize the count time (probably as midnight Central Europe Time since that's the game system's time zone) to avoid any controversy. That way, even if the Mods weren't able to post the count at that precise time, at least anyone online could take screenshots to prove the vote totals.

Unfortunately no, the vote was counted at the time it was posted (so with three days delay).
It's unlikely we'd ever implement a single count time, given that the votes are counted manually and we all have different time constraints. If the game itself were to count the votes then that would be possible, but there's real flesh and blood people doing the counting here.

Polites wrote:It's unlikely we'd ever implement a single count time, given that the votes are counted manually and we all have different time constraints.

But we have implemented a single count time -- the first of the month. But in this case for whatever reason it wasn't kept to. It's fair enough that Mods or RP Team Members might not always be available to be online at precisely midnight Central European Time. But at least if we say that the winners are whoever have the lead at midnight on the first, then Mods can count whenever they want, but interested players (especially those who stand to win or lose) can log in at midnight if they want to and take screenshots to demonstrate the count. I know for a fact that one of the Security Council members this term was losing at midnight CET January 1st but only won because the count was conducted on the 3rd.

We do strive to keep to the first of the month for the vote count, and so far we only missed the deadline twice, most recently because the 1st of the month was also New Year's . It's easier and more achievable to have an entire day rather than a specific hour as the count time, for obvious reasons.

I am generally opposed to using screenshots as evidence for anything in this game, since they can be very easily altered. In this case one need only take a screenshot at a different time (when the vote goes in their favor, for instance) and just edit the time.

I understand that, had we done the count on the 1st rather than on the 3rd, the result would have been different, but to be fair this was a rather exceptional case. I've rarely seen WC campaigns get so much traction so quickly, and it's probably the first time when a delay of two days would have impacted the final result.

In any case, we will continue to do our best to adhere to the timeline, and hopefully future delays will not result in different results if such delays cannot be avoided.