43rd General Assembly Session

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Re: 43rd General Assembly Session

Postby Masionette9 » Sun May 17, 2020 12:01 pm

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Mr. General-Secretary, Distinguished Delegates,

Regardless of the purpose for which Yingdala's representation proposed the resolution and its nature, the very intention of the Security Council to make such a statement is reprehensible and unacceptable under any international law and international cooperation rules. It is not within the scope of the Council's competence to determine which representatives of governments, organizations or other subjects of international law and the rules of international relations are capable and to what extent they are capable of representing the interests of a given subject in the structures of the Council and the entire Congress. We believe that the proposal made by representatives of Yingdala was a direct attack on the internal sovereignty and international subjectivity of the Hutori's citizens.
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Re: 43rd General Assembly Session

Postby Liu Che/Zhuli » Sun May 17, 2020 12:37 pm

Kang Qigang, Yingdalan Ambassador to the World Congress
Your Excellencies, there are no rules or laws stating that all governments must be pleased with the government of other nations. It is the sovereign right of all nations to choose their form of government and way of life. That does not mean all other nations must shower that nation with praise and support.

On representation, then perhaps Valruzia would be so kind as to invite the ambassadors of slave states and the Khanate of Bianjie to the World Congress to give a speech to the Congress?

Countries may interpret our statements however they like. That is their sovereign right. We can only express the truth of our heart. If others choose not to believe it, that is fine. We know the truth and that is all that matters.
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Re: 43rd General Assembly Session

Postby Masionette9 » Sun May 17, 2020 1:07 pm

Image His Excellency Jan Vaugh-Rosta, Prime Minister and Minister for Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Valruzia

Mr. General-Secretary, Distinguished Delegates,

The question of the choice of the political system lies within the substantive scope of the right of self-determination and in no way translates into or relates to human rights, so the argument of the Yingdala representatives is inappropriate and irrational. If a change of regime in Hutori occurs democratically with public support, then it is the responsibility of each country, and in particular of the World Congress, to recognize this will of the people of Hutori. It is irrational that the dissatisfaction of one country, in this case, Yingdala, with the democratic reform of another country, will give countries the opportunity to issue statements that condemn or endorse that reform. It is not for the governments of other countries to judge the peaceful, non-threatening reforms of another country, and certainly not as part of their activities within the structures of an organization such as Congress or Council. We continue to uphold our statement that Yingdala's representatives, in this case, involved themselves with international tort, and we expect an official withdrawal from their position on the Hutori internal reforms. If those comments and statements have been made outside the SC we would have nothing against them but the fact that Yingdala proposed this horrible resolution in the Security Council remains.
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Re: 43rd General Assembly Session

Postby Liu Che/Zhuli » Sun May 17, 2020 1:29 pm

Kang Qigang, Yingdalan Ambassador to the World Congress
Your Excellency, our argument is not inappropriate or irrational, although you have the right to think thus. We firmly believe political systems, regardless of type, are related to human rights. This is a core belief of our faith and philosophy. You and others may never understand this, and that is fine, but know it is core to who we are as a people.

For Valruzia to argue against Yingdala's statement while making its own statement stating that each country has the responsibility to recognize the governments of other countries is strange to say the least. Perhaps Your Excellency did not word that correctly and would agree that it is the sovereign right of any country to recognize whatever government they wish? Furthermore, perhaps Your Excellency also did not mean to say that countries do not have the right to judge other countries regardless of circumstances?

Might I also pose a question to His Excellency: if a new government, political system, what have you, comes about from peaceful and democratic means, but uses words - just words - that could appear threatening to some, either in that country or internationally, what would Valruzia do? What if it appeared to be a violent or revolutionary threat? Solely appearance, not any actionable threat. What would Valruzia do?

We appreciate Your Excellency's stance and believe it contributes to this sorely needed debate. But Yingdala will not withdraw its statement nor its resolution. We will not have our sovereign right to speech be torn away. Our nation has blood ties with the Hutorian Royal House. As we value family, we value them and will endeavor to support them. If the Queen of Hutori and the rest of the Royal House request us to withdraw the resolution, we would be most happy to oblige our distant cousins-in-law. Because that is what family does.
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Re: 43rd General Assembly Session

Postby Masionette9 » Sun May 17, 2020 1:40 pm

Image His Excellency Jan Vaugh-Rosta, Prime Minister and Minister for Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Valruzia

Mr. General-Secretary, Distinguished Delegates,

The delegation of Yingdala is right to believe that the political system may be to a little extent connected to the political system/regime in a given country. But in this case, Their argument was in fact inappropriate as much as it was irrational. In Mr. Qigang's recent statement mentioned they say that the country has a right to recognize whatever government it wishes to recognize - well that is strange, to say the least. We underlined that if reform of political regime is done in a democratic manner with large popular support, there if the governments of other countries refuse to recognize the democratically elected government then countries that follow this path loses credibility as partners in multilateral relations and it is worrisome that country like Yingdala will selectively recognize democratic processes around Terra. We underline again - DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. If I were Yingdala's representative, I would refrain from issuing such comments as those in the two last sentences of hir previous speech as it not only shows the true face of the governmental Tian'an as well as their will to recognize democratic processes around Terra.
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Re: 43rd General Assembly Session

Postby Liu Che/Zhuli » Sun May 17, 2020 1:48 pm

Kang Qigang, Yingdalan Ambassador to the World Congress
I thank Your Excellency for, in fact, agreeing with Yingdala on its points.

But now I must address your underlying assumption about Yingdala: that Yingdala will refuse to recognize Hutori. Your Excellency, that is a very bold assumption. You are linking words to actions that have not happened. You are judging a book by its cover. Not only is this disappointing, but it is disappointing that you call me Mr. Qigang. In my country, like in Endralon, like in Dankuk, like in Seko, we place our surname first - because family comes first. It is in our culture to support family. And if Valruzia has an issue with supporting family members, then what does that say about the true credibility of Valruzia? If you cannot help family, then who can you really be expected to help? But then our assumption is open to correction by you, we do not want to judge you based on words.
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Re: 43rd General Assembly Session

Postby Masionette9 » Sun May 17, 2020 2:11 pm

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Mr. General-Secretary, Distinguished Delegates,

I believe that the fact that we value democratic processes more than loose family ties say a lot about our country. I believe that it says that we are credible as principles of democracy are far more important than "family business" and "mafia-like" protection. Yes, I said it. But the words that come out of Mr. Kang's mouth are nothing more than confirmation of this assumption. Mr. Kang did not once, refer to democratic character of the changes in Hutori. Yingdala used their competence as SC member to issue a resolution that outright called for condemnation of Republicansm - that is Ladies and Gentlemen - in our eyes a very bad joke made by Yingdala. Where in my statement did I say that Yingdala will not recognize Hutori? I would like to ask Yingdalan representative to refrain from putting words in my mouth, but the actions of Yingdala makes us believe that it will selectively recognize democratically elected governments of foreign countries - that is what I said. Security Council is not a place to "protect your family" but a place to fight threats to international security and peace.
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Re: 43rd General Assembly Session

Postby Liu Che/Zhuli » Sun May 17, 2020 2:34 pm

Kang Qigang, Yingdalan Ambassador to the World Congress
Your Excellency, the clarification of your stance is most appreciated and clarifies the credibility of your nation on many levels. We also appreciate the implication that Yingdala is a mafia state. It is truly enlightening to see that other nations care more about words than actions. The superficial nature of it all. It is all a show at the end of the day.

As for the democratic character, what of it? We have been consistent: Hutori can do as it pleases.

As for republicanism in the title of the resolution - not in the body - the choice was made due to technical limitations placed on resolution titles. We would have preferred "Effort to Get Rid of Hutori's Present System", because we ourselves practice republicanism. Yingdala is a res publica and politeia in the Selcuian and Kalopian traditions. The people (many) elect representatives to the legislature, the legislature (few) makes the laws and determines the cabinet that serves at the pleasure of the legislature, and has a symbolic head of state (one). The traditional definitions do not require an elected or hereditary head of state. Monarchy, Aristocracy, and Democracy are combined to make the best type of government. There are no jokes here.

Your Excellency, when has Yingdala pulled its ambassadors from Hutori? When has it expelled Hutori's representatives in Yingdala? When has it sanctioned Hutori? When has it embargoed Hutori? When has it sent military weaponry to Macon to protest Hutori? When has it declared war on Hutori to foment regime change? These are actions. We have taken no actions against Hutori nor intend to. Your Excellency, words are distinct from actions.
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Re: 43rd General Assembly Session

Postby Masionette9 » Sun May 17, 2020 3:49 pm

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Mr. General-Secretary, Distinguished Delegates,

I would like to point out that the Yingdala took the actions, and by 'actions' I mean proposing such outrageous resolution are a clear trial of interference and meddling with internal issues of Hutori, and there is no place for Yingdala and any other nation to raise such concerns over sovereign issues of Hutori's people on the forum of a body as Security Council. Of course, Hutori is free to set its political system and will do as its people wish to but the fact that Yingdalan delegates tried to meddle with the internal issues of a foreign country by proposing horrible resolution is enough for us to classify it as a breach of power and further evidence for deep structural reform of the SC.
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Re: 43rd General Assembly Session

Postby John Cracker » Sun May 17, 2020 4:32 pm

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Despite our issues with Valruzia, we whole heartedly agree with them, Indralas decision to put that bill on the floor of the Security Council is an embarrassment to the chamber
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