43rd Security Council Session

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Re: 43rd Security Council Session

Postby jamescfm » Fri May 08, 2020 7:55 pm

Image Ms. Nasim Jabarzadeh, General-Secretary of the World Congress:
The World Congress welcomes the arrival of the Vanukean Representative.
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Re: 43rd Security Council Session

Postby XanderOne » Sat May 09, 2020 8:07 pm

Michael Turriano, Istalian Ambassador

About our vote on the resolution 85, Istalia assumed that the WC Peacekeeper would have provided the investigation team and the security personnel. Sorry for this misunderstanding. Now, after the veto by Dorvik, I think we have to find a new solution.

Actually, we cannot deny that Dorvik was right in asking personnel who have significant training in the rules of engagement as well as military training. Bianje currently is not at all the best place where to do a calm promenade colleagues, this is undeniable. Police personnel or other kind of security personnel are not at all suitable to assure the adeguate protection to the expertises and I think that assuring the safeness and the best protection to the expertises is a priority like assuring Bianje and the international community that here the SC is not at all organizing an invasion. What is sure it's that expertises will NEVER travel in Bianje without an adeguate escort, well trained to face such scenarios, something that, a part national military, only the WC Peacekeepers can offer.

And to be frank, here too much nations and representatives seem to have too much seconded totally unfounded fears but it is also true that we all nations of the SC should better weighing words to avoid misconceptions.

Said that, Istalia suggest to amend the Resolution 83 with the provision that the World Congress Chemical and Biological Weapons Office personnel will be entitled to carry out the investigation in Bianje, as suggested by the Kazulian Ambassador, protected by a contingent of security personnel from the World Congress Peacekeeping and Assistance Office, specifying that the contingent will travel to Bianje only and exclusively to assure the protection to the expertises staff. And to wipe out any dubt, with the support from the analysts of the World Congress Peacekeeping and Assistance Office we can specify in the amendement the size of the contingent, which Istalia however already foresee to be far less even than 50 soldiers. And should we continue to hear allegations about invasions and sovereignty infringment? Really?

Said that, I would just add that after countless specifications, at this point, as said, it would be simply ridicolous continuing to give credit to those who will continue to claim and denounce invasion attempts or infringments of Bianje sovereignty and by part of Istalia such things will be considered just as useless tinkering good only to delay furthermore the mission.

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Re: 43rd Security Council Session

Postby Liu Che/Zhuli » Sun May 10, 2020 1:51 pm

Liang Wen, Yingdalan Ambassador to the World Congress
Your Excellencies, Yingdala's "fears" about this organization being seen as a tad too physically aggressive is not "unfounded," "useless tinkering," or an "attempt to delay furthermore the mission." Our point of view stresses the need to get the response right, to relay the possibility of unintended consequences, and to ensure that our actions are seen to be legitimate - not only in the international community, but also within the nations in which an action takes place.

On getting the action right, that means devising a plan that fits the specific needs of the country in question. We cannot broadly state we want to do something and plan it out later or on the go. It must be thoughtful. This usually requires a degree of specificity. In the case of the action against Bianjie, the resolution was, in our view, too broad. Despite the very helpful clarification comments of others in this body, words can end up being just that, words. A broad resolution would allow for broad action, regardless of the commentary in this body. This has implications for future resolutions and actions, encouraging them to be broad in scope. Your Excellencies, this has an impact on sovereignty of all states and makes it appear that the Security Council is willing to discard the notion when it comes to non-Security Council members. We certainly do not think that is the intent of this body, but it can appear so. And appearances matter when it comes to the legitimacy of our actions.

As to unintended consequences, have we all not seen what has happened in Bianjie? The government there - their reprehensible actions aside - clearly feels threatened in some way. That does not excuse their actions, but that is what their actions tell us. Specifically, they feel threatened by foreigners. Now how should we expect such a government to reaction to the World Congress sending a "multinational force primarily comprised of World Congress Peacekeeping and Assistance Office peacekeepers"? Let us compare that to sending investigators with a security detail. What looks and sounds less threatening? Which scenario do you think the regime would respond better? Would it be helpful to this body for Bianjie to cry "invasion, invasion, the World Congress is trying to take us over with their multinational force!", or would it be better for the World Congress to drive the narrative by demonstrating, should Bianjie reject inspectors with a security detail, that a peacekeeping mission is necessary to discover the true events on the ground? Would not all of Terra see Bianjie's rejection of inspectors with a security detail warranting a greater response, therefore increasing the legitimacy of such actions? Would this not demonstrate to the people of Bianjie that this body truly does not desire to infringe upon their sovereignty, thus making them view us in a positive light?

Our proposed resolution, although vetoed, was founded in the belief that it would actually benefit the mission and bring greater good. You see, we are concerned with the long term viability and mission of this organization to do good. If we choose to harm our efforts to do good in the long term, then we only have ourselves to blame. We cannot do good without legitimacy. For without legitimacy, good is not seen as good, but seen as bad and illegitimate.

All we ask is that, despite how severe a situation may seem, to think clearly, analyze the situation, be specific, and act accordingly.
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Re: 43rd Security Council Session

Postby XanderOne » Sun May 10, 2020 3:56 pm

Michael Turriano, Istalian Ambassador

Istalia fully understood what was underlined by Yingdala and it is for this reason that we tried days after days, months after months, to underline that here nobody is talking about an invasion or to send countless of armed men and for the same reason we invited members to avoid to talk too hastly about military mission and to proceed step by step.

Istalia proposed something to adjuste the resolution about Bianje underlining very well the scope of the mission, exclusively focused on the investigation, and also underlining that my country can't absolutely accept that the WCCBO's expertises' lifes are put in the hand of people not all trained to face such situations, and the WPAO personnel is regullarly trained to face such situations like to offer protection services into problematic and dangerous scenarios.

But it seems that here into the World Congress there are somebody who prefer to continue to give credits to allegations about the WPAO being just an organization aimed to "pursue imperialistic invasions against poor and helpless nations around the world", but this should be clear: we don't at all refers to Yingdala which arguments we find to be always quite reasonable and it is just for what Yingdala pointed out that Istalia was pushed to underline to the international community the investigative nature of the mission.

Anyways, said that, we are open to hear further proposals, but Istalia reteirates a position on which we are immovable: we will not accept "policemen" and we will not accept "private contractors" to offer security services to the expertises and obviously we can't and we don't want propose to a single nation to put in place its own men, because such mission as well as its security support should be managed and overseen exclusively by the World Congress.

If this should not be the case, my Government would be forced to avoid that any possible Istalian expertises working for the WCCBO will travel in Bianje to conduct investigation without the adeguate protection.

At this point the rest of the nations of the World Congress obviously are free to decide to send in a dangerous scenario without adeguate protection their citizens, because the expertises working for the WCCBO are and remains citizens coming from the nation members of this Council, but they will do this at their peril and taking responsability of any thing could happen to the expertises during their permanence in Bianje.

While if there is any single nation or group of nations willing to pursue a separate investigation without the oversight of the World Congress, maybe because more accepted by Bianje regime, they are free to do so, but any results of such investigation for Istalia would be null and void and we will put our veto on any decision take on such results.

Finally, I have just to add another thing: it seems that when we talk about WPAO we are talking about something of stranger to the World Congress when indeed it was actually an organization developed, voted and approved by this Security Council, formed by nations voted by the whole nations of Terra.

Thus if there is someone that wishes to put in question the legittimacy of the WPAO scope, let's forget about Bianje because here the whole legittimacy of the World Congress is put in danger. This organization and its attached bodies and offices cannot be considered as legitimate when it is convenient and not legitimate when not.

Here there were nations who actually exploited this crisis to ask to third nation to offer, yes, OFFER them new tools to improve the capabilities of their armed forces, accusing in turn those who was against such request by just saying "you are improving your armed forces to attack whole Dovani". But nobody said a word inside the Security Council of such unacceptable request.
Thus what we have to conclude? That it is not right to pretend adeguate protection to our expertises sent to pursue an investigation the world is requesting but it is legitime to offer military devices like if they are candy to a nation which just cried because it has not the adeguate economic and technological capabilities?

Me like my Government we are really astonished.

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Re: 43rd Security Council Session

Postby Liu Che/Zhuli » Sun May 10, 2020 6:16 pm

Liang Wen, Yingdalan Ambassador to the World Congress
We thank His Excellency the Istalian Ambassador for his statement.

Let us then end this issue of semantics and constant attempts to clarify our positions. I for one, and I am sure we all are, tired of restating our positions when we do agree, at the core, about this mission in Bianjie. The investigation conducted by this mission will be legitimate and appears to be the only way to ascertain information from Bianjie, as they have closed communication with everyone. Perhaps we might be able to debate the resolution Yingdala has prepared to eliminate discussions like these in the future.


RECALLING the mission of the World Congress Peacekeeping and Assistance Force (WCPAFOR);

UNDERSTANDING that there is no World Congress security and safety service;

BELIEVING that such a service is necessary to provide security to World Congress buildings, personnel, and missions that do not require peacekeepers;

CREATES the Department of Safety and Security (WCDSS) within the WCPAFOR;

PERMITS the WCDSS to provide security and safety management, operational guidance, and technical support and supervision of all safety and security details at World Congress locations, commissions, and missions;

PERMITS the WCDSS to provide and coordinate the personal protection details and security support to World Congress leaders, locations, missions, and other external events;

FUNDS the WCDSS out of the WCPAFOR budget.
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Re: 43rd Security Council Session

Postby XanderOne » Sun May 10, 2020 9:22 pm

Michael Turriano, Istalian Ambassador

Istalia can only support this proposal from Yingdala. I'm sure such a new department within the WCPAFOR will provide the adeguate security personnel to the missions of the World Congress and personnel of the WC offices.

Istalia hopes that specifying the use of this new department all the dubts from the international community will be wiped out.

My country is ready to support this resolution and to amend the Resolution 83, as said, specifying that the logistic and security support will be provided by the new WCDSS.

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Re: 43rd Security Council Session

Postby Liu Che/Zhuli » Tue May 12, 2020 7:15 pm

Kang Qigang, Yingdalan Ambassador to the World Congress
Your Excellencies, I have replaced the retired Ambassador Liang Wen as Yingdala's representative to the World Congress. I am honored to be among such distinguished diplomats.

As the first order of my official business here, I implore you all to please take a look at Yingdala's draft resolution to deal with security and safety. Thank you.
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Re: 43rd Security Council Session

Postby Liu Che/Zhuli » Fri May 15, 2020 7:01 pm

Kang Qigang, Yingdalan Ambassador to the World Congress
Given that Istalia is the only country that has commented on our proposed resolution, positively we might add, we will be proposing the formal resolution.
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Re: 43rd Security Council Session

Postby Liu Che/Zhuli » Sat May 16, 2020 6:14 pm

Kang Qigang, Yingdalan Ambassador to the World Congress
Your Excellencies, on behalf of Yingdala, I thank you for voting for SC R86. Thanks to you, not only will the World Congress and its activities be more secure, but you have demonstrated that diplomacy comes first. Not to mention the unified goals of this organization. Again, our deepest gratitude to you all.
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Re: 43rd Security Council Session

Postby Maxington » Sun May 17, 2020 12:43 pm

Image Ms. Helen Christoffersen, Kazulian Ambassador to the World Congress
If it is possible, could we have an update on the World Congress' progress in its investigation into Chemical and Biological Weapons proliferation in Bianjie?
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