Elf wrote:Phil Piratin wrote:My concern, which I feel is a legitimate concern, is that we have a large number of players who prefer playing in English-themed nations. Their "playing space" has been squeezed already, and I am not convinced it is either fair or beneficial to squeeze it too much further. You play your game, and let them play theirs. That's all I'm asking, and I don't think that's unfair.
Hmmm... seems like
the numbers tell a different story. 67 out of 279 players are in the countries James mentioned. They have a total of (if I can trust my maths skillz around midnight that is...
) 30 seats available (one of them have 9 players). So it seems like there's no shortage...
Anyway... what I really wanted to say is, the map is a delight because I know it will be a great tool in the hands of, in particular, Polites - who happens to be the community's expert on this kind of stuff!
Lets try to look at this seriously...at the moment, there are 8 Culturally Protected nations which are English-themed:
Hutori
Kalistan
Kirlawa
Likatonia
Luthori
Malivia (actually Indian/Afro-Caribbean actually, but generously including here as allows English names etc...)
Mordusia
Rutania
There are also 15 Culturally Open nations, where there are no rules against English character names etc.:
Baltusia
Beluzia
Darnussia:
Cildania:
Dolgava/Dolgaria
Davostan
Gaduridos
Hobrazia
Kanjor:
Lodamun
Pontesi:
Solentia
Talmoria
Telamon
Vorona
So with 8 English-themed Culturally Protected nations, and 15 Culturally Open nations, we can fairly say that at the moment, broadly speaking, we have 23 "English-friendly" nations.
Now, going by the Cultural Map which Moderation have released, the English themed nations will be as follows:
Aloria
Hutori
Kirlawa
Likatonia
Luthori
Rutania
Beluzia
This amounts to a reduction from
23 "English-friendly" nations to just
7. That is just 7 nations out of 58! In practice, one presumes the number might eventually rise a little higher than this, due to players in some nations taking the initiative to "opt-out" of the Global Role-Play Accord. But nevertheless, this is what the "default" situation is going to be - and I presume this is going to be the situation when the new system is first introduced.
I am aware advancing this argument does not generally win one popularity amongst the forum community, but I am strongly of the view that the "playing space" for the players who prefer English RP should not be squeezed too tightly. Please appreciate
they need space to play. Just like a lot of players on the forum like to move from non-English nation to non-English nation, a lot of these players also
appreciate having a wide range of options in terms of (English) nations to play in. This should be respected and taken into account. We need to get away from the idea that "English parties" should be crammed into the the smallest number of nations as is practically possible.
I would also argue that it is in the interests of the non-English nations to have a decent supply of English nations, the reason being that a lot of players start off preferring English RP, but with time, like to experiment and go to nations with non-English cultures. Long-term, the non-English nations will struggle to thrive unless there is a lively and plentiful range of English nations available in the game. One might almost say the non-English nations are like "nurseries" for producing the next generation of players who will play in the non-English nations.