Bleeding Hearts Lonely Nations

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Re: Bleeding-Hearts Lonely Nations Thread - Plug 'em in 'ere!

Postby Reddy » Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:32 pm

Zongxian wrote:This sounds amazing and I'm seriously tempted...

Me too, but I really need to take a break from PT. May I could join in a few weeks from now.
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Re: Bleeding-Hearts Lonely Nations Thread - Plug 'em in 'ere!

Postby Zongxian » Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:12 pm

I won't join until I finalize some sort of idea... but here's what I'm currently thinking about: a Kamist-oriented organization, composed mostly of small business owners and shopkeepers (like the people who own the many hundreds of random businesses you see lining streets in Japan or other East Asian nations). In that sense, it is also a merchant league of sorts. But back to the religious aspect, there is a desire to reinvigorate the native old religion and its associated values. Given the nature of Kamism/Shintoism, there isn't actually a major hierarchy or "bishopric" type leadership; the only real figures are keepers of the Kamist shrines.

This is all over the place and I'm still ironing out details. But this is what I'm thinking about right now.. it could always change.
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Re: Bleeding-Hearts Lonely Nations Thread - Plug 'em in 'ere!

Postby Afrocentric » Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:28 pm

This is very interesting. I'll definitely consider this.
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Re: Bleeding-Hearts Lonely Nations Thread - Plug 'em in 'ere!

Postby Captain-Socialist » Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:02 pm

Zongxian wrote:I won't join until I finalize some sort of idea... but here's what I'm currently thinking about: a Kamist-oriented organization, composed mostly of small business owners and shopkeepers (like the people who own the many hundreds of random businesses you see lining streets in Japan or other East Asian nations). In that sense, it is also a merchant league of sorts. But back to the religious aspect, there is a desire to reinvigorate the native old religion and its associated values. Given the nature of Kamism/Shintoism, there isn't actually a major hierarchy or "bishopric" type leadership; the only real figures are keepers of the Kamist shrines.

This is all over the place and I'm still ironing out details. But this is what I'm thinking about right now.. it could always change.


Nice concept (and interesting because in the Japanese Shinokosho a shopkeeper would be considered below a peasant) and quite similar to a party I played in Sekowo but slightly more sane by the sounds of it, but bear in mind we're currently developing a syncretic state religion that will incorporate elements of Showa Era State Shinto and Christianity. So perhaps part of the movement could be about either adapting too or rejecting the new religious hierarchies the state is creating.
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Re: Bleeding-Hearts Lonely Nations Thread - Plug 'em in 'ere!

Postby Zongxian » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:27 pm

Captain-Socialist wrote:
Zongxian wrote:I won't join until I finalize some sort of idea... but here's what I'm currently thinking about: a Kamist-oriented organization, composed mostly of small business owners and shopkeepers (like the people who own the many hundreds of random businesses you see lining streets in Japan or other East Asian nations). In that sense, it is also a merchant league of sorts. But back to the religious aspect, there is a desire to reinvigorate the native old religion and its associated values. Given the nature of Kamism/Shintoism, there isn't actually a major hierarchy or "bishopric" type leadership; the only real figures are keepers of the Kamist shrines.

This is all over the place and I'm still ironing out details. But this is what I'm thinking about right now.. it could always change.


Nice concept (and interesting because in the Japanese Shinokosho a shopkeeper would be considered below a peasant) and quite similar to a party I played in Sekowo but slightly more sane by the sounds of it, but bear in mind we're currently developing a syncretic state religion that will incorporate elements of Showa Era State Shinto and Christianity. So perhaps part of the movement could be about either adapting too or rejecting the new religious hierarchies the state is creating.


I see; this is good to know. If I were to go with this idea, it would certainly fall on the side of rejecting the emerging syncretic religious hierarchy. While Kamism (assuming parallels to RL Shinto) has individual-level syncretism with beliefs like Daenism and Jaenism, this faction would not be fond of the Western/Hosian influenced syncretism I suppose.
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Re: Bleeding-Hearts Lonely Nations Thread - Plug 'em in 'ere!

Postby Captain-Socialist » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:56 pm

So would anyone here be willing to be "the Church" to promote the enforcement of the new religion? That could be a good dynamic, since as "the Court" I'd prefer to mediate between the extremes.

According to this vulnerable and all knowing website, the Japan's "Guilds" (Za) developed out of Shrines and Temples, so you could definitely have something going there.
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Re: Bleeding-Hearts Lonely Nations Thread - Plug 'em in 'ere!

Postby OneTime » Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:37 pm

I wouldn't mind being the church since the dude in Badara keps calling early elections to keep me from power.
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Re: Bleeding-Hearts Lonely Nations Thread - Plug 'em in 'ere!

Postby Captain-Socialist » Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:17 pm

OneTime wrote:I wouldn't mind being the church since the dude in Badara keps calling early elections to keep me from power.


That be great. Bear in mind the specifics of the religion is still being developed by me and Baron_Harkonnen. Here's the wiki page, which will be updated quite a lot from now on.

I'd say the Church should - aside from being fanatic, be big government and socially conservative and support the Throne against the aristocracy when the aristocracy seems ascendent and the aristocracy against the Throne when the Throne is ascendent.
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Re: Bleeding-Hearts Lonely Nations Thread - Plug 'em in 'ere!

Postby OneTime » Sun Mar 01, 2015 12:36 am

Awesome I'm in!
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Re: Bleeding-Hearts Lonely Nations Thread - Plug 'em in 'ere!

Postby Polites » Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:56 am

I'm really torn between this and continuing my CP creation/update spree.

If a male Emperor sits on the throne in a generation or two, is there room for an Imperial Harem made of Majatran slaves? Eilomax would love to expand its business into Dovani.
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