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Expdenditure calculator

Postby EEL123 » Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:15 am

National budgets are often not realistic. You can have highly socialist (I daresay communist) laws, with all types of entitlements and spending and stuff, and have a low government expenditure and low taxes. On the other hand, you can have very laissez-faire country, with no regulation, inhumanely low spending etc., and still have a fairly beefy budget and high taxes to go with it.

So, given the spate of calculators which have been released lately (currency converters, budget calculator, Rildanor calculators, political calculators - NPI calculator will come out soon), I figured that we could have an expdenditure calculator on Excel or something. It would have all the available laws on one side, a drop-down menu with all the options to go with each of the laws, and a cost next to it depending on which option you choose. In a separate area, you'd have an expenditure table, with all the costs tallied up and distributed to their appropriate departments (for example, foreign aid costs would go to the foreign affairs budget, and the healthcare system costs would go to the health/social services budget). This is probably going to involve Jess or Siggon.

Using this system, we could have more realistic budgets, and possibly more realistic RP. And budgeting would be more of a challenge (which may or may not be fun).
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Re: Expdenditure calculator

Postby JuliaAJA » Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:10 pm

If you want drop down menus then you are going to need Siggon and be willing to limit compatibility. I might make an original for this.
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Re: Expdenditure calculator

Postby EEL123 » Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:33 pm

Jessaveryja wrote:If you want drop down menus then you are going to need Siggon and be willing to limit compatibility. I might make an original for this.
I doesn't have to be drop-down menus, if there's another way to do it I'll be happy. But first we'll need someone (any economists here?) to assess what each policy will cost.
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Re: Expdenditure calculator

Postby GreekIdiot » Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:53 pm

I'll see if my CFA can provide me with a scholar who would be interested in some work.

edit; I'll bump tomorrow if I remember it.
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Re: Expdenditure calculator

Postby Mr.Yankees » Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:11 am

How do you plan to make it public and update it? Tradionally, we have use the Lodamun currency to act as the exchange currency. Do you plan to use one universal currency?

The main aspect for this to work, in my opinion, is having people behind it to back it up with RP. It's a great project and I fully support it but you don't want to waste your time with it if people won't use it. I recommend reaching out to people as much as possible to gauge their interest.
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Re: Expdenditure calculator

Postby EEL123 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:26 am

Mr.Yankees wrote:It's a great project and I fully support it but you don't want to waste your time with it if people won't use it.
Half the time I do shit just for the fun of it, and if nobody uses it, well, not much that I can do there.

Mr.Yankees wrote:How do you plan to make it public and update it?
Put it on MediaFire. And it could be updated every now and then when new laws come out.

Mr.Yankees wrote:Tradionally, we have use the Lodamun currency to act as the exchange currency. Do you plan to use one universal currency?
I reckon that we could use a system where all the prices are in LOD. Then on the main worksheet (where your expenditures will be displayed), there will be a drop-down menu of all the countries. Select yours, and it will be converted from LOD.
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Re: Expdenditure calculator

Postby Siggon Kristov » Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:33 am

EEL123 wrote:
Mr.Yankees wrote:It's a great project and I fully support it but you don't want to waste your time with it if people won't use it.
Half the time I do shit just for the fun of it, and if nobody uses it, well, not much that I can do there.

I believe people will use it.
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I'm planning to make EEL's spreadsheet combine the functionalities of most of the tools I have made, so everyone could use it for almost anything - a full Particracy assisant.

EEL123 wrote:
Mr.Yankees wrote:How do you plan to make it public and update it?
Put it on MediaFire. And it could be updated every now and then when new laws come out.

Trust us, we did it already: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4596#p37839


EEL123 wrote:
Mr.Yankees wrote:Tradionally, we have use the Lodamun currency to act as the exchange currency. Do you plan to use one universal currency?
I reckon that we could use a system where all the prices are in LOD. Then on the main worksheet (where your expenditures will be displayed), there will be a drop-down menu of all the countries. Select yours, and it will be converted from LOD.

This is how we did it in the Currency Converter: http://www.mediafire.com/?izejbjslb8ijbcc
I added the currency rates and the drop-down menu to EEL's calculator already, and it works.
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Re: Expdenditure calculator

Postby Mr.Yankees » Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:46 pm

I'll take a more careful look at it tomorrow. It looks good from my brief review. If you guys are willing to put the time in to make it work, I'm all for it.
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Re: Expdenditure calculator

Postby JuliaAJA » Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:52 pm

Mine have less downloads than Siggon's.

The menus have not worked for everyone. LibreOffice Calc cannot utilise the menus. I have heard a complaint about some version of Excel not working well with them. I can make a version for anyone who cannot use the menus or does not like them.

I was thinking of having the prices as percentages of GDP.

I like the idea of a unified spreadsheet.
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Re: Expdenditure calculator

Postby EEL123 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:55 pm

Jessaveryja wrote:I was thinking of having the prices as percentages of GDP.
Three price columns, perhaps. One in LOD, one in your national currency (there should be an option to choose what country you're from so it can be converted from LOD) and one as a % of GDP. Then you can have a budget summary thing, like the one of the front page of Siggon's calculator, where it will tell you whether you have a deficit or surplus (you'd have to input taxation though), regulated or unregulated or balanced economy and stuff like that.
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