Gotcha, IML!

[SelucianCrusader]

So, Gishoto is finally going to be Gishoto again. This dream of UniSocAll has finally come true! Yes, it'll still be a monarchy, and yes it's not guaranteed that it'll last or move n any direction whatsoever, though I still feel that our alliance, which I am honoured to be the co-leader of, can feel some spirit of victory in our hearts. Because the seed of innovation and visionary thinking we once planted has grown into something.

I am not exaggerating when I claim that ATR-IML hostilities have been meek since UniSocAll disappeared. I though that the role of being the ideologically opposed global alliances of Terra could have been taken by the BoTaV (which I'm also a proud member of) and the CfL, respectively, but this has not happened. Lacking the cold war situation has evidently made the number of active players drop. We need to ignite some hostilities again, the sooner the better.

So, fellow ATR:ers, let's bash those grumpy old men now!

[Reno]

So, Gishoto is finally going to be Gishoto again. This dream of UniSocAll has finally come true! Yes, it'll still be a monarchy, and yes it's not guaranteed that it'll last or move n any direction whatsoever, though I still feel that our alliance, which I am honoured to be the co-leader of, can feel some spirit of victory in our hearts. Because the seed of innovation and visionary thinking we once planted has grown into something.

I am not exaggerating when I claim that ATR-IML hostilities have been meek since UniSocAll disappeared. I though that the role of being the ideologically opposed global alliances of Terra could have been taken by the BoTaV (which I'm also a proud member of) and the CfL, respectively, but this has not happened. Lacking the cold war situation has evidently made the number of active players drop. We need to ignite some hostilities again, the sooner the better.

So, fellow ATR:ers, let's bash those grumpy old men now!

Alternatively, we can have a cold war between the globalists liberals (CfL and its kins) and... their counterpart, including pretty much every anti-globalist, anti-liberal entities around. Basically, consider the hostility between US/NATO/EU and the Arabian world, the anti-west militarism, and other similar third world factions in RL.

The coup in Hulstria will, hopefully, be an official start of this new wave of conflict, although the Great South Dovani War is technically part of it as well, as it is a war between a colonial power (a hegemony, if you may) and the faction that seeks to liberate the colonies.

[EEL123]

Alternatively, we can have a cold war between the globalists liberals (CfL and its kins) and... their counterpart, including pretty much every anti-globalist, anti-liberal entities around.

The CfL is utterly and completely dead. I don't think that dead organisations can fight wars.

[Captain-Socialist]

ATR? What did ATR have to do with it?

[Reno]

Alternatively, we can have a cold war between the globalists liberals (CfL and its kins) and... their counterpart, including pretty much every anti-globalist, anti-liberal entities around.

The CfL is utterly and completely dead. I don't think that dead organisations can fight wars.

Yes, but by "CfL and its kins", I mean "basically everyone who thinks globalisation is a good idea", on which there should be a majority in Terra.

[EEL123]

Yes, but by "CfL and its kins", I mean "basically everyone who thinks globalisation is a good idea", on which there should be a majority in Terra.

Nah, I don't think that that's enough for a war. I would take the position to its extremes, so you don't have moderates, but you have imperialistic nations, like Luthori, fighting wars.

[Reno]

Yes, but by "CfL and its kins", I mean "basically everyone who thinks globalisation is a good idea", on which there should be a majority in Terra.

Nah, I don't think that that's enough for a war. I would take the position to its extremes, so you don't have moderates, but you have imperialistic nations, like Luthori, fighting wars.

Well, imperialists like Luthori would head the globalist side of things, but I would say given the extremist nature of the Brotherhood and the rising Gao-Showans, we are effectively trying to push the moderates to the other end of the scale. Of course, it will not work if the moderates do not give a crap.

[EEL123]

Of course, it will not work if the moderates do not give a crap.

Isn't that what a moderate is?

[Reno]

Of course, it will not work if the moderates do not give a crap.

Isn't that what a moderate is?

No, moderates are those who care and make sure they will be on the winner's side regardless of the ideology. Those who do not give a crap is passer-bys, or irradiated wasteland, in this case.