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Re: We need less Presidents and Prime Ministers!

PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:55 pm
by Siggon Kristov
Afrocentric wrote:You know P2 had an electoral college option, which I was using in Sogona. I wonder if it could be coded into this game.

I think Wouter made it clear that he won't make any changes to P1. The most we can do is RP an electoral college, like we did in Beluzia. We made an objective system of determining how many votes each party had, and each party chose who to allocate their votes to. After the votes were counted, and a winner was declared, we passed a bill to change the HoS title to include the winner's name (just like monarchies that include the name in the title and leave a "." at the end so that the monarch's name can be changed without reversing the hereditary HoS law).

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By the way, here are some statistics on titles...
All 20 of these nations have directly-elected Presidents as their HoS:
Cildania
Zardugal
Dorvik
Aloria
Kirlawa
Rutania
Likatonia
Kalistan
Cobura
Dranland
New Endralon/Kizenia
Valruzia
Talmoria
Kalopia/Wantuni
Ikradon
Aldegar
Tukarali
Istalia
Jakania
Solentia

Why should Lodamun be one of these?

Re: We need less Presidents and Prime Ministers!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:51 am
by Siggon Kristov
Yay!
All 20 of these nations have directly-elected Presidents as their HoS:
Cildania
Zardugal
Dorvik
Aloria
Kirlawa
Rutania
Likatonia
Kalistan
Cobura
Dranland
New Endralon/Kizenia
Valruzia
Talmoria
Kalopia/Wantuni
Ikradon
Aldegar
Tukarali
Istalia
Jakania
Solentia

Keymon can now be added to the list to make 21.
Lodamun will soon be added to make 22.

Re: We need less Presidents and Prime Ministers!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:37 am
by SelucianCrusader
Siggon Kristov wrote:Keymon can now be added to the list to make 21.

No offence but, what a jerk that player. Maybe it's time to send in the Crimson Crusade.

Re: We need less Presidents and Prime Ministers!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:02 pm
by Siggon Kristov
SelucianCrusader wrote:
Siggon Kristov wrote:Keymon can now be added to the list to make 21.

No offence but, what a jerk that player. Maybe it's time to send in the Crimson Crusade.

Lodamun would love a visit as well. I think Romulus and the new guy in Keymon resolved their differences, though.

Re: We need less Presidents and Prime Ministers!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:37 pm
by EgeDoruk
Siggon Kristov wrote:
SelucianCrusader wrote:
Siggon Kristov wrote:Keymon can now be added to the list to make 21.

No offence but, what a jerk that player. Maybe it's time to send in the Crimson Crusade.

Lodamun would love a visit as well. I think Romulus and the new guy in Keymon resolved their differences, though.


Lodamun is open to anyone. Please come to Lodamun and reinstate our president and chairman. That is so UNIQUE that everyone will love it.

Re: We need less Presidents and Prime Ministers!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:35 pm
by Afrocentric
EgeDoruk wrote:
Lodamun is open to anyone. Please come to Lodamun and reinstate our president and chairman. That is so UNIQUE that everyone will love it.


The amount of sarcasm in this post is over 9000.

Re: We need less Presidents and Prime Ministers!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:40 pm
by Siggon Kristov
EgeDoruk wrote:Lodamun is open to anyone. Please come to Lodamun and reinstate our president and chairman. That is so UNIQUE that everyone will love it.

It's not about restoring my system. I'd be fine with any system except one with a directly-elected President.
Also, our HoS (the Chairman) didn't play the same role that Particracy Presidents typically play. When the HoS title is "President" - the HoG is usually overshadowed, which is why we had our President as HoG. The President called the shots; he was the executive HoG, and he wasn't directly-elected. The Chairman was just a placeholder, and if you notice, he didn't play any role in Lodamun's politics. I was planning to remove the Chairman entirely[url][/url], to just have the President, but the President still wouldn't be directly-elected.

Re: We need less Presidents and Prime Ministers!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:59 pm
by Dynastia
If people can't directly elect their president, it's not a true democracy. It's oligarchy.

Re: We need less Presidents and Prime Ministers!

PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:02 am
by Siggon Kristov
Dynastia wrote:If people can't directly elect their president, it's not a true democracy. It's oligarchy.

It's still an interesting system, and in a nation with a lot of parties (like Dranland), it could work well.

Re: We need less Presidents and Prime Ministers!

PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:57 am
by Afrocentric
Siggon Kristov wrote:
Dynastia wrote:If people can't directly elect their president, it's not a true democracy. It's oligarchy.

It's still an interesting system, and in a nation with a lot of parties (like Dranland), it could work well.


They're too boring to try that. They prefer posting 15 articles a day about their President; not their oligarchy.