Kalistan is a very multi-ethnic/multi-racial place, and has been for a long time. The majority of the people describe their ethnic background as simply "Kaistani" because they are of heavily mixed and very complex descent. This is because Kalistan was originally settled by the Kalii Tribes. (Kalistan is taken from Kaliistantum, "Land of the Tribes" To this group long ago (before game history starts) various exile groups, refugees, pirates and so forth fled, settled or hid in Kalistan, and were welcomed into and intermarried into the various Kallii tribes. The various tribes themselves also intermarried.
"Anantanese: Spoken primarily on Ananto, the 3rd major language of Kalistan. Very few people speak it as a first language. It is primarily the official language of the traditional Imperial Court, the Emperor, and so forth. It is rarely spoken at all on the mainland. Ancient Anantanese had it's own alphabet. Modern Anantanese uses a modified form of the Kalistani Alphabet."
Nothing in this suggests a Hindustani cultural designation."Languages: There are 22 official languages in Kalistan, and many unofficial ones, though almost everyone speaks one or both of only two related ones: Vrassan and Odufar. These are symbolized by English with American vocabulary and British pronuonciation for Vrassan, vice-versa for Odufar. Vrassan is spoken primarily in Vrassa, Ananto, and nothern Neveras, while Odufar is spoken primarily in Odufaray, Suldanor and southern Neveras."
A very multi-ethnic/multi-racial place"; "Hindustani Indian" the largest group
The main groups, their appearance, closest earth culture and names are listed below, in approximately descending order:
Kalkalli: Hindustani Indian: From the original Kalii Tribes
I see no reason to completely abandon the history and culture created previously.
I will oppose constantly and will make sure that it is kept and/or restored
The groups you all want to rp are in fact the most common group in Kalistan, the Kalii. I can give you more details if you want.
But the current Kalistani cultural protocols are inseparable from the current and recent history of Kalistan.
I think part of the reason for the confusion here is that Kalistan's Cultural Protocols are not explicit - or at least come across to some of us as not being explicit! - about what Kalistan's cultural background is. As a long-standing Kalistan player, you naturally have a clear idea of what you believe the cultural background to be. Pentalarc is in the same boat as well. But for others of us...well, do you see that maybe we need a bit more help?
This is why we have introduced the requirement for percentage breakdowns of the cultural and religious demographics of each nation. It helps to communicate the cultural background more clearly and prevent (or at least limit) these misunderstandings.
What I really hope will now happen is that you, pentalarc and Polites will be able to agree on a new set of Cultural Protocols which respects Kalistan's history but conforms with the new rules on providing clearer details.
You will also then be in a better position to advise us about what Kalistan's details should be for the Nation Renaming Guide.
6.1.3 Cultural Protocols bills must provide descriptions of the cultures, languages and religions which would be easy for a new player to understand (eg. "Dundorfian = German").
Doc wrote:I hope there is this much attention paid when we eventually return to the question of macro economics for Terran countries. I didn't have much success in generating interest in that discussion a few months ago.
Polites wrote:In light of the newly accepted Cultural Protocols, I think Cildania's short description should now be "Maghrebi with Levantine influences", and the primary languages in the Nation Renaming Guide should be amended to include Berber, Latin, and Arabic in addition to Phoenician (and the Hebrew substitute).
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