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Language assistance requests & nation title lists

Postby Aquinas » Tue Jun 02, 2015 3:56 pm

Particracy is a game of many in-game languages - including even a few invented languages. Google Translate is a good resource, though it isn't always helpful, doesn't cover every language and I'm told doesn't produce accurate results 100% of the time.

This is a thread for language translation requests. I myself am a typical lazy monolingual English speaker so will be generally useless on this front, but fortunately, we have others here who know more than one language, and some who know quite a range.

So, post your language requests here. Also, if you speak languages other than English and would be prepared to help out with translations, this is an opportunity to come forward and list the language(s) you know.

One other thing to add. Although this thread may look *official* because it is stickied, Moderation does not as a general rule involve itself in disputes surrounding whether names etc. have been translated correctly. This isn't because we don't care, but just because we don't have the capacity/expertise to get into all that. It is good for everyone to do their best to get the translations right and listen to advice, but this is going to generally be a co-operative/voluntary effort. So just to be clear: I don't want to raise anybody's expectations that we're going to issue rulings on the grammar in something written in Old Church Slavonic or Jelbic :).

Idioc's Jelbic Languages Vocabulary Sheet: http://www.idioc.co.uk/Jelbic-0.1.1.txt

EDIT: See below a list of different languages and the Particracy members who report having knowledge (to some degree or other) of them and are willing to offer assistance with translations. If anybody wishes to be added or removed from this list, please let us know, either on this thread or by private message:

Chinese - Liu Che, Polites
Coptic - Polites
Dutch - Kubrick, MI3
English, Old - Polites
Esperanto - Polites
French - albotrosinus, CanadianEh, M13, Maxinton, utoronto
German - Amazeroth, Kubrick, M13
Gothic - Polites
Greek, Ancient - Polites
Hindi - GOLI VEERRAJU
Japanese - 88TF, Polites
Jelbic - Polites, TheNewGuy
Latin - Polites
Norwegian - Amazeroth
Persian - Polites
Polish - LukasV, utoronto
Phoenician - Polites
Romanian - Polites
Russian - TheTsar
Slavonic, Old Church - Polites
Spanish - J4COB65, Maxington
Swedish - SelucianCrusader
Syriac - Polites
Tamil - Adithya
Telugu - GOLI VEERRAJU
Welsh - Pragma
Zulu - Reddy

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Nation Title Lists


In the Nation Renaming Guide, some of the nations have authorised languages which are not so easy to work with. As a special allowance, players are permitted to use an English name if they are unable to receive a satisfactory translation within 7 days of posting a translation request on the Language assistance requests thread.

This thread offers players an opportunity to help us compile lists of possible nation names in the more challenging languages.

This Original Post will be used to add and update the lists of nation names as suggestions are put forward. We will also use it to maintain lists of other nations in other languages that are submitted to us.

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Brmék (for Barmenia)

Ahmadi Republic of Barmenia = Brmék Ám'ádsrlji Rekvakns
Caliphate of Barmenia = Brmék Kali'fàstat
Democratic Republic of Barmenia = Brmék Nrzi Rekvakns
Federal Republic of Barmenia = Brmék Prtastaték Rekvakns
Felinist Republic of Barmenia = Brmék Nkasrlji Rekvakns
Hosian Republic of Barmenia = Brmék Hzsrlji Rekvakns
Kingdom of Barmenia = Brmék Mlk'knstat
People's Republic of Barmenia = Brmék Hikoék Rekvakns
Republic of Barmenia = Brmék Rekvakns
Shahdom of Barmenia = Brmék Sháknstat
Socialist Republic of Barmenia = Brmék Onsmifrndé Rekvakns
State of Barmenia = Brmék Knstat

Chinese (for Indrala)

"Yingdala" = Term used for "Indrala". Means jade-like large, towering rock, thereby describing the island, which has many mountains, as being not only beautiful, but also prosperous

Celestial/Heavenly Empire/Kingdom/Dynasty of Great Indrala = Da Yingdala Tianchao
Empire of Great Indrala = Da Yingdala Diguo
Federal/United Republic of Indrala = Yingdala Hezhongminguo
Kingdom of Great Indrala = Da Yingdala Wangguo (Remove "Da" and "Great" is removed)
People's Republic of Indrala, or quite literally People's Communist State of Indrala = Yingdala Renmin Gongheguo
Republic of Indrala = Yingdala Minguo
State of Indrala, or just Indrala = Yingdala Guo
United States/Federated States/Federation of Indrala = Yingdala Hezhongguo

Coptic (for Cobura)

Associated States of Cobura = Haneparkhia Enkoinonia ente Kobourē
Coburan Empire = Basilea Enkobourē
Coburan Kingdom = Metouro Enkobourē
Democratic Republic of Cobura = Demokratia Enshlol ente Kobourē
Kingdom of Cobura =Metouro ente Kobourē
Republic of Cobura = Demokratia ente Kobourē
Socialist Republic of Cobura = Demokratia Enmetthokhtekh ente Kobourē
Socialist State of Cobura = Eparkhia Enmetthokhtekh ente Kobourē
State of Cobura = Eparkhia ente Kobourē
United Nomes of Cobura = Hanthōsh Enkoinonia ente Kobourē

Jelbék (for Jelbania)

Democratic Republic of Jelbania = Jelbék Nrzi Rekvakns
Federal Republic of Jelbania = Jelbék Taghék Rekvakns
Khaganate of Jelbania = Jelbék Hajánékhajánknstat
Khanate of Jelbania = Jelbék Hajánknstat
Kingdom of Jelbania = Jelbék Knzknstat
People's Republic of Jelbania = Jelbék Hikoék Rekvakns
Republic of Jelbania = Jelbék Rekvakns
Socialist Republic of Jelbania = Jelbék Onsmifrndé Rekvakns
State of Jelbania = Jelbék Knstat

Medu Neter/Ancient Egyptian (for Hawu Memenhes)

Demcratic Republic of Hawu Mumenhes: Hawu Mumenhes Citioru Iswety idn
Empire of Hawu Mumenhes: Hawu Mumenhes Nesyet Meheryt Nesyet
Federal States of Hawu Mumenhes: Hawu Mumenhes tunkeh charet xadtu
Hawu Mumenhes Nation: Hawu Mumenhes Remetch
Kingdom of Hawu Mumenhes: Hawu Mumenhes Nesyet
People's Republic of Hawu Mumenhes: Hawu Mumenhes Iswety nisru nis zas Citioru
Representative Democracy of Hawu Mumenhes: Hawu Mumenhes Citioru Iswety idn
Socialist Republic of Hawu Mumenhes: Hawu Mumenhes Iswety Abewtyru
State of Hawu Mumenhes: Hawu Mumenhes Charet
United States of Hawu Mumenhes: Hawu Mumenhes Charet Smate

Old English/Anglo-Saxon (for Deltaria Nova/Vorona)

Deltaria Nova = Nīwe Deltaland / Nīƿe Deltaland / Níwe Deltaland
Democratic Republic of Deltaria Nova = Folcrīcelicu Cynewīse Nīwes Deltalandes / Folcrīcelicu Cyneƿīse Nīƿes Deltalandes / Folcrícelicu Cynewíse Níwes Deltalandes
Duchy / Principality of Deltaria Nova = Þēodenrīce Nīwes Deltalandes / Þēodenrīce Nīƿes Deltalandes / Þéodenríce Níwes Deltalandes
Earldom of Deltaria Nova = Eorldōm Nīwes Deltalandes / Eorldōm Nīƿes Deltalandes / Eorldóm Níwes Deltalandes
Federal Republic of Deltaria Nova = Gebundene Cynewīse Nīwes Deltalandes / Ȝebundene Cyneƿīse Nīƿes Deltalandes / Gebundene Cynewíse Níwes Deltalandes
Kingdom of Deltaria Nova = Cynerīce Nīwes Deltalandes / Cynerīce Nīƿes Deltalandes / Cyneríce Níwes Deltalandes
People's Republic of Deltaria Nova = Folcisce Cynewīse Nīwes Deltalandes / Folcisce Cyneƿīse Nīƿes Deltalandes / Folcisce Cynewíse Níwes Deltalandes
Republic of Deltaria Nova = Cynewīse Nīwes Deltalandes / Cyneƿīse Nīƿes Deltalandes / Cynewíse Níwes Deltalandes
Socialist Republic of Deltaria Nova = Gefērsciplīce Cynewīse Nīwes Deltalandes / Ȝefērsciplīce Cyneƿīse Nīƿes Deltalandes / Geférsciplíce Cynewíse Níwes Deltalandes
State of Deltaria Nova = Rīce Nīwes Deltalandes / Rīce Nīƿes Deltalandes / Ríce Níwes Deltalandes

Democratic Republic of Vorona = Folcrīcelicu Cynewīse Foronlandes / Folcrīcelicu Cyneƿīse Foronlandes / Folcrícelicu Cynewíse Foronlandes
Duchy / Principality of Vorona = Þēodenrīce Foronlandes / Þéodenríce Foronlandes
Earldom of Vorona = Eorldōm Foronlandes / Eorldóm Foronlandes
Federal Republic of Vorona = Gebundene Cynewīse Foronlandes / Ȝebundene Cyneƿīse Foronlandes / Gebundene Cynewíse Foronlandes
Kingdom of Vorona = Cynerīce Foronlandes / Cyneríce Foronlandes
People's Republic of Vorona = Folcisce Cynewīse Foronlandes / Folcisce Cyneƿīse Foronlandes / Folcisce Cynewíse Foronlandes
Republic of Vorona = Cynewīse Foronlandes / Cyneƿīse Foronlandes / Cynewíse Foronlandes
Socialist Republic of Vorona = Gefērsciplīce Cynewīse Foronlandes / Ȝefērsciplīce Cyneƿīse Foronlandes / Geférsciplíce Cynewíse Foronlandes
State of Vorona = Rīce Foronlandes / Ríce Foronlandes
Vorona = Foronland
Voronan Island = Foronland Īegland

Phoenician names (for Cildania)

Ahmadi Republic of Cildania = Safoṭ Ahmadit shel Qildar
Apostolic Republic of Cildania = Safoṭ Shelaḣit shel Qildar
Democratic Republic of Cildania = Safoṭ Demoqraṭit shel Qildar
Departmental Republic of Cildania = Safoṭ Maḣlaqit shel Qildar
Federal Republic of Cildania = Safoṭ Ḣaberit shel Qildar
Hosian Republic of Cildania = Safoṭ Ruaḣit shel Qildar
Kingdom of Cildania= Mamlaka shel Qildar
Most Serene Cildanian Kingdom = "Mamlaka Qildarit Shalemit Meod" or "Mamlaka Shalemit Meod Qildarit"
People's Republic of Cildania = Safoṭ ʿAmmit shel Qildar
Republic of Cildania = Safoṭ shel Qildar
Socialist Republic of Cildania = Safoṭ Ahiimistit shel Qildar
State of Cildania = Madinah shel Qildar
Union of Cildania = Hettihād shel Qildar
Yeudish Republic of Cildania = Safoṭ Yeudit shel Qildar

Pnték (for Pontesi)

Democratic Republic of Pontesi = Pnték Nrzi Rekvakns
Empire of Pontesi = Pnték Jezknzknstat
Federal Republic of Pontesi = Pnték Srtràpék Rekvakns
Khanate of Pontesi = Pnték Hajánknstat
Kingdom of Pontesi = Pnték Knzknstat
People's Republic of Pontesi = Pnték Hikoék Rekvakns
Republic of Pontesi = Pnték Rekvakns
Socialist Republic of Pontesi = Pnték Onsmifrndé Rekvakns
State of Pontesi = Pnték Knstat

Polish (for Valruzia)

Valruzia: Walruzja

Archbishopic of Valruzia/Valruzian Archbishopic: Arcybiskupstwo Walruzyjskie
Bishopic of Valruzia/Valruzian Bishopic: Biskupstwo Walruzyjskie
Caliphate of Valruzia/Valruzian Caliphate: Kalifat Walruzyjski
Commonwealth of Valruzia/Valruzian Commonwealth: Rzeczpospolita Walruzyjska
Democratic Republic of Valruzia: Walruzyjska Rzeczpospolita Demokratyczna or Walruzyjska Republika Demokratyczna
Duchy of Valruzia/Valruzian Duchy: Księstwo Walruzyjskie or Xięstwo Walruzyjskie
Electorate of Valruzia/Valruzian Electorate: Elektorat Walruzyjski
Emirate of Valruzia/Valruzian Emirate: Emirat Walruzyjski
Empire of Valruzia/Valruzian Empire: Cesarstwo Walruzyjskie or Imperium Walruzyjskie
Federal Kingdom of Valruzia: Federacyjne Królestwo Walruzyjskie
Federal Republic of Valruzia: Walruzyjska Rzeczpospolita Federacyjna or Walruzyjska Republika Federacyjna
Federation of Valruzia/Valruzian Federation: Federacja Walruzyjska
Khaganate of Valruzia/Valruzian Khaganate: Kaganat Walruzyjski
Khanate of Valruzia/Valruzian Khanate: Chanat Walruzyjski
Kingdom of Valruzia/Valruzian Kingdom: Królestwo Walruzyjskie
People's Democratic Republic of Valruzia: Walruzyjska Rzeczpospolita Ludowo-Demokratyczna or Walruzyjska Republika Ludowo-Demokratyczna
People's Republic of Valruzia: Walruzyjska Rzeczpospolita Ludowa or Walruzyjska Republika Ludowa
Principality of Valruzia/Valruzian Principality: Księstwo Walruzyjskie or Xięstwo Walruzyjskie
Republic of Valruzia/Valruzian Republic: Rzeczpospolita Walruzyjska or Republika Walruzyjska
Socialist Federative Republic of Valruzia: Walruzyjska Rzeczpospolita Socjalistyczna Federacyjna or Walruzyjska Republika Socjalistyczna Federacyjna
Socialist Republic of Valruzia: Walruzyjska Rzeczpospolita Socjalistyczna or Walruzyjska Republika Socjalistyczna
State of Valruzia/Valruzian State: Państwo Walruzyjskie
Sultanate of Valruzia/Valruzian Sultanate: Sułtanat Walruzyjski
Union of Valruzia/Valruzian Union: Unia Walruzyjska
United Kingdom of Valruzia: Zjednoczone Królestwo Walruzyjskie
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Re: Language assistance requests

Postby TheNewGuy » Tue Jun 02, 2015 4:46 pm

Happy to help with Jelbek, though it looks like somebody has a vendetta against it at the moment.
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Re: Language assistance requests

Postby Siggon Kristov » Tue Jun 02, 2015 4:58 pm

TheNewGuy wrote:Happy to help with Jelbek, though it looks like somebody has a vendetta against it at the moment.

If you're willing to create a new name for Jelbek, and a new name for a Jelbek nation, I'd be glad to feature it in my world in P3.

I've wanted a non-RL culture in my world for some time now.
I don't want to call it Jelbek, and I don't want to call the nation "Jelbania" because it just feels wrong.
But... I'd love to get the naming style. Do you think you could come up with a list of surnames, and a list of given names for each gender?
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Re: Language assistance requests

Postby Polites » Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:17 pm

I can offer most help with Romanian (native speaker) and Latin (formerly semi-fluent, but I still know the grammar).

I can also help, to various degrees, with some of the more obscure languages in PT, such as Jelbic, Esperanto, Ancient Greek, Phoenician, Old English, Syriac, Coptic, Old Church Slavonic, or Gothic.

And I am sure there are players out there way better than me, but if all else fails, I can give some assistance with Japanese, Chinese, and Persian.

And no, I am not fluent in all of those languages. Here's a good tip on how to make sure your party/nation name is closer to being accurate: wikipedia has versions in pretty much all of the above languages; find an article that contains the word(s) you're looking for, and if it's in a script you are not familiar with, run the word through wiktionary, with luck it will give you the transliteration. For instance, if you want to know the translation for "Socialist" or "Union" in your language of choice, check the article on the Soviet Union in that language; or if you want to know how to say "Federal" or "Republic", go to the article on Germany.
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Re: Language assistance requests

Postby albatrosinus » Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:19 pm

I am a native French speaker so I can help.
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Re: Language assistance requests

Postby TheNewGuy » Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:37 pm

Siggon Kristov wrote:
TheNewGuy wrote:Happy to help with Jelbek, though it looks like somebody has a vendetta against it at the moment.

If you're willing to create a new name for Jelbek, and a new name for a Jelbek nation, I'd be glad to feature it in my world in P3.

I've wanted a non-RL culture in my world for some time now.
I don't want to call it Jelbek, and I don't want to call the nation "Jelbania" because it just feels wrong.
But... I'd love to get the naming style. Do you think you could come up with a list of surnames, and a list of given names for each gender?


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Re: Language assistance requests

Postby Siggon Kristov » Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:44 pm

TheNewGuy wrote:
Siggon Kristov wrote:
TheNewGuy wrote:Happy to help with Jelbek, though it looks like somebody has a vendetta against it at the moment.

If you're willing to create a new name for Jelbek, and a new name for a Jelbek nation, I'd be glad to feature it in my world in P3.
I've wanted a non-RL culture in my world for some time now.
I don't want to call it Jelbek, and I don't want to call the nation "Jelbania" because it just feels wrong.
But... I'd love to get the naming style. Do you think you could come up with a list of surnames, and a list of given names for each gender?

http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=396321

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Re: Language assistance requests

Postby albatrosinus » Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:15 pm

By the way, the terms "Royaume des Rildanoriennes", "Roi des Rildanoriennes", etc... sound weird.

It should rather be "Royaume des Rildanoriens", since "Rildanoriennes" is feminine plural and it would here mean that all Rildanorians are women, which is a really weird idea. In French, when a group contains male and female persons, we use the masculine plural.

In Lourenne, the party "Action Lourennais" should rather be named "Action Lourennaise", since "Action" is feminine.
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Re: Language assistance requests

Postby Kubrick » Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:01 pm

Fluent in Dutch, decent German, that is pretty much where it ends when it comes to spelling.

Siggon Kristov wrote::D

http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=431387

This one has even more names. As for P3, are all those cultures set? Is nothing left to be created by us not willing to go through a paywall? Off-topic, I know, willing to take it to a PM.
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Re: Language assistance requests

Postby Siggon Kristov » Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:14 pm

Kubrick wrote:http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=431387

This one has even more names.

Thanks :D

Kubrick wrote:As for P3, are all those cultures set? Is nothing left to be created by us not willing to go through a paywall? Off-topic, I know, willing to take it to a PM.

I PM'd you.
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