RP laws & early elections (was Questions & Requests)

[TheTsar]

Can you pass an RP law assigning the power to dissolve the legislature (i.e. call early elections) to the HoS and let the person who RPs the HoS to call early elections without having to propose a bill?

[Aquinas]

Can you pass an RP law assigning the power to dissolve the legislature (i.e. call early elections) to the HoS and let the person who RPs the HoS to call early elections without having to propose a bill?

Since development work on Particracy Classic has ceased, there would be no way of changing the program to enable players who control the HoS to have the special power to call immediate elections. Section 22 of the Game Rules has this to say:

22.3 The following types of RP law are specifically disallowed and will be considered void:

[...]

22.3.7 RP laws which require early elections in specified circumstances. Players may negotiate voluntary conventions amongst themselves on when early elections are appropriate, but Moderation will not enforce these.

[TheTsar]

I mean it is not necessary to change the system of the game. It is just that you ask moderation for an early election and refer to the RP law assigning the power to call early election without the consent of the legislature, and moderation just set up the early election. I meant this.

[Aquinas]

I mean it is not necessary to change the system of the game. It is just that you ask moderation for an early election and refer to the RP law assigning the power to call early election without the consent of the legislature, and moderation just set up the early election. I meant this.

This would not be allowed under section 22 of the Game Rules, which I quoted further up. However, I ought to have pointed out that under the section on Nationmasters (section 18), a Nationmaster can request Moderation to call early elections "when they judge this to be in the best interests of gameplay". So theoretically, the scheme you proposed could work if it was being done in a nation with a Nationmaster who went along with it.

Please note I'm not promising anything here, but I've moved this into General Discussion, in order to invite feedback about whether it should be possible to use RP laws to trigger Moderation-imposed early elections, and if so, how that would be done.

Some of the challenge involved here would be:

i) Moderators don't log in every hour of the day, so players would need to take into account that there could be a delay before the early election was triggered.

ii) Since time would be of the essence for role-playing snap elections, when Moderators received the early election request, it would need to be easy and quick for them to ascertain whether or not to grant the early election or not. It would not work if Moderators were having to untangle confusions or controversies over such issues as whether the early election request contradicted other RP laws or ongoing RP events, or exactly which player it was who was controlling the character with the power to call the early election. In short, it would need to be done in a clear way that was easy for everybody to understand and follow.

[TheTsar]

I mean it is not necessary to change the system of the game. It is just that you ask moderation for an early election and refer to the RP law assigning the power to call early election without the consent of the legislature, and moderation just set up the early election. I meant this.

This would not be allowed under section 22 of the Game Rules, which I quoted further up. However, I ought to have pointed out that under the section on Nationmasters (section 18), a Nationmaster can request Moderation to call early elections "when they judge this to be in the best interests of gameplay". So theoretically, the scheme you proposed could work if it was being done in a nation with a Nationmaster who went along with it.

Please note I'm not promising anything here, but I've moved this into General Discussion, in order to invite feedback about whether it should be possible to use RP laws to trigger Moderation-imposed early elections, and if so, how that would be done.

Some of the challenge involved here would be:

i) Moderators don't log in every hour of the day, so players would need to take into account that there could be a delay before the early election was triggered.

ii) Since time would be of the essence for role-playing snap elections, when Moderators received the early election request, it would need to be easy and quick for them to ascertain whether or not to grant the early election or not. It would not work if Moderators were having to untangle confusions or controversies over such issues as whether the early election request contradicted other RP laws or ongoing RP events, or exactly which player it was who was controlling the character with the power to call the early election. In short, it would need to be done in a clear way that was easy for everybody to understand and follow.

As an answer for number 1, I have noticed that you login a couple of times every day, so while you are a moderator, that will not be a problem

As an answer for number 2, if the HoS is elected, then the player who controls the party to which the HoS belongs to has the powers assigned to the HoS, but if the HoS is inheritable, then the player who created the character has the powers. If the RP law is in place, an the player who created the inheritable HoS position is planning on inactivating his/her party in the country which the above mentioned HoS comes from, then either the character needs to go, the law needs to be repealed, the character be given to an active party in the country of the above mentioned HoS or a combination.

[IrishWolfDog]

Hi there again, my brother followed all the steps you told him to follow and hes still not head of state. Could you contact the game owner please to change it? Also my party still has 0 seats. Are the voters human players or bots? Thank you for your time.

[mpog]

Hi there again, my brother followed all the steps you told him to follow and hes still not head of state. Could you contact the game owner please to change it? Also my party still has 0 seats. Are the voters human players or bots? Thank you for your time.

You're in the wrong thread. A part of the Questions&Requests thread was moved here for a separate debate. I'll address your question in the original thread. viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4176&start=480