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Re: World Congress & Security Council

Postby Siggon Kristov » Thu Oct 06, 2016 5:11 pm

Autokrator15 wrote:This will upset the ballance of power,

I'm not sure if this is necessarily a bad thing. Actually, the overall implication of your post is that there are specific countries which are entitled to the elected seats. I'm also not sure how it would upset the balance of power. Tbh, I'm not even aware of what the balance of power is right now, or who the superpowers are right now, and it's not something I expect the players outside of the forum to know (or care about) either.

If others agree that certain countries are entitled to seats on the council, then perhaps we could copy the real UNSC and have some nations with permanent seats, and then the rest would be elected. If others would oppose that, then this idea that specific countries are entitled to these seats should fade.

Another overall implication of your post is that the Security Council would have power. I was hoping for its resolutions to be non-binding, and for it to just be something we can use for bragging rights OOC, or to be more influential (by having a more weighted but not imposing voice) IC.

Autokrator15 wrote:I know that the current ballance is only as it is now but over the course of this games history we can safely asume it doesnt change directly.

In looking at the game's history (as well as Terra's geology), I figured it made more sense for Indrala to be linked with Dovani than for it to be separated from it (though I'm not discounting Indrala's links with Seleya). The Gao-Showa and Gao-Soto ethnicities - if I'm not mistaken - are heavily based in Dovani.

Autokrator15 wrote:In Siggon's proposal the C seat is left without a major superpower.

I'm not sure why this is a bad thing, but I would welcome you to elaborate. In the real UN, the world is divided into regional groups. Not all regional groups have a superpower in them. Actually, the USA and all the Western powers are in a regional group together, while Russia is in another, and China and Iran are in another. There are 15 Security Council seats, with 5 being reserved for permanent members and the next 10 being elected among the groups (3 for Africa, 2 for Latin America and the Caribbean, 1 for Eastern Europe, and 1 for the Western European metagroup). You can imagine that it's not necessarily regional powers that necessarily get these seats; countries as small as Jamaica, Trinidad & Tobago, and Singapore have been on the Security Council, with Jamaica having been on it twice.

Autokrator15 wrote:D, now has two major superpowers fighting for the same seat. Trigunia and Indrala are both superpowers and Hutori is a majorpower

1) Hutori is not in the same seat as Trigunia and Indrala, in my proposal.
2) It's possible for 2 nations in the same seat to get elected, which is why there is a Seat E.
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Re: World Congress & Security Council

Postby Doc » Thu Oct 06, 2016 8:52 pm

Siggon Kristov wrote:Alright, so I'm proposing that the seat borders be changed like this:

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Seat A - Artania, Makon
Seat B - Majatra, Vascania
Seat C - Seleya, Temania
Seat D - Dovani, Keris, Indrala

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Re: World Congress & Security Council

Postby Kubrick » Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:08 pm

Means you get two votes!

EDIT: Or rather two chances at a seat? Meh, blame it on Zanz.
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Re: World Congress & Security Council

Postby jamescfm » Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:23 pm

Doc wrote:
Siggon Kristov wrote:Alright, so I'm proposing that the seat borders be changed like this:

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Seat A - Artania, Makon
Seat B - Majatra, Vascania
Seat C - Seleya, Temania
Seat D - Dovani, Keris, Indrala

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This line separates Ananto from Kalistan. Just FYI.


The Ananton independence movement strikes again ;)
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Re: World Congress & Security Council

Postby Doc » Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:24 pm

jamescfm wrote:
Doc wrote:
Siggon Kristov wrote:Alright, so I'm proposing that the seat borders be changed like this:

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Seat A - Artania, Makon
Seat B - Majatra, Vascania
Seat C - Seleya, Temania
Seat D - Dovani, Keris, Indrala

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This line separates Ananto from Kalistan. Just FYI.


The Ananton independence movement strikes again ;)


AIP has some powerful friends, I see... :/
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Re: World Congress & Security Council

Postby Doc » Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:25 pm

Kubrick wrote:Means you get two votes!

EDIT: Or rather two chances at a seat? Meh, blame it on Zanz.


Well, as the SP finally controls Ananto again, we welcome the development.
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Re: World Congress & Security Council

Postby Siggon Kristov » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:10 pm

Lodamun denies any involvement in the recent developments in Ananto, though it may begin talks with moderate activists. :?
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Re: World Congress & Security Council

Postby Siggon Kristov » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:19 pm

Fixed Kalistan:
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Re: World Congress & Security Council

Postby Doc » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:50 pm

Ananto thanks you.
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Re: World Congress & Security Council

Postby Aquinas » Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:56 am

It would probably not be practical to rearrange the candidates lists now, but I will say a few words about the challenges which were involved in drawing them up.

The two main priorities were:

(i) That each list should include a similar number of nations.

(ii) That each list should represent a geographically "logical"/coherent/aesthetically satisfying region/section of the Game Map.

In terms of (i), we were mainly successful, since lists A, C and D have 14 candidates, and list B (the Majatran one) has 16 - only slightly more than the others.

In terms of (ii), we were probably successful with lists A (Artania), B (Majatra) and C (Seleya), which each represent consistent continents. We were probably less successful with list D, which is somewhat sprawling in geographical terms.

There were tricky issues involved in deciding whether Keymon should be in list A (the Artania list) or list C (the Seleya list) and whether Indrala should be in list C (the Seleya list ) or list D (the list including Dovani). The decisions which were finally made there were made due to (i) (ie. the aim of trying to give each list a reasonably equal number of candidates).
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