World Congress & Security Council

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Re: World Congress & Security Council

Postby Occam » Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:41 am

Polites wrote:
Occam wrote:Wouldn't it make more sense to take the Permanent Members out of the elections? Currently we have 32 votes that are basically invalid (Dorvik 5, Istalia 18, Kaluzia 7, Vanuku 2). And since there is an "Abstain" option, why not include it in the results?

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It's just easier to do the math this way, and votes for Permanent Members are essentially abstentions anyway. We don't include the Abstain votes since they don't impact the election, unless you have a suggestion for what should happen with them. I'd be open to giving those votes some impact, though I can't think of a good way to achieve that.

I can't think of a good use for abstentions either, it's more a question of completeness. But it's certainly not important. I don't know what math you're referring to. Isn't it possible to just remove the Permanent Members from the voting options?

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Re: World Congress & Security Council

Postby Polites » Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:23 am

Occam wrote:
Polites wrote:
Occam wrote:Wouldn't it make more sense to take the Permanent Members out of the elections? Currently we have 32 votes that are basically invalid (Dorvik 5, Istalia 18, Kaluzia 7, Vanuku 2). And since there is an "Abstain" option, why not include it in the results?

Regards,
Occam


It's just easier to do the math this way, and votes for Permanent Members are essentially abstentions anyway. We don't include the Abstain votes since they don't impact the election, unless you have a suggestion for what should happen with them. I'd be open to giving those votes some impact, though I can't think of a good way to achieve that.

I can't think of a good use for abstentions either, it's more a question of completeness. But it's certainly not important. I don't know what math you're referring to. Isn't it possible to just remove the Permanent Members from the voting options?

Regards,
Occam


Ah I see what you mean, I thought you were suggesting we calculate votes for Permanent Members as abstentions and add an additional "Abstained" category for each seat, which would (very slightly) complicate things.

I think it would make a lot of sense to simply remove the Permanent Members from the variables. Anyone have any objection to that?
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Re: World Congress & Security Council

Postby Auditorii » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:01 am

I think it’s the best thing to do.
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Re: World Congress & Security Council

Postby Polites » Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:24 pm

Alright, this was an easy fix and it does make a lot of sense. We can always add and remove nations whenever rankings change. It's done now.
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Re: World Congress & Security Council

Postby CCP » Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:40 pm

Problem with this is that it removes the Great Powers' ability to use their votes strategically when advocating for non-permanent members' campaigns which some Great Powers had begun doing.

But since it's already done, may as well see how it plays out in the next election. I think a more urgent issue is finding a replacement for Cirith as WC RP Master.
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Re: World Congress & Security Council

Postby Polites » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:14 pm

4447 SECURITY COUNCIL ELECTION RESULTS

Permanent Members:
Dorvik
Istalia
Kazulia
Vanuku

Non-Permanent Members:
Seat A: Luthori
Seat B: Selucia
Seat C: Baltusia
Seat D: Hutori


Full Details:

Breakdown of the vote in each seat shown below. Change compared with last election show in brackets. Three Non-Permanent members had two or more consecutive mandates, so the seat went to the next runner up. Seat C was awarded to Baltusia, determined by lottery between Baltusia and Kalistan.


This was the first election where the Permanent Members were removed from the candidate lists for Non-Permanent Memers.


Seat A:

Luthori= 22 (-)
Hawu Mumenhes= 7 (-)
Malivia= 6 (-1)
Dundorf= 3 (-1)
Endralon= 2 (-)
Aloria= 2 (+1)
Darnussia= 2 (+1)
Beluzia= 1 (-1)
Hobrazia= 1 (-)
Kundrati= 1 (-)
Klavia Okeanó= 1 (+1)

Seat B:

Cobura= 17 (+2)
Selucia= 7 (+5)
Deltaria= 4 (-)
Cildania= 2 (-1)
Beiteynu= 2 (-)
Jelbania= 1 (-)
Pontesi= 1 (-)
Kafuristan= 1 (-)
Badara= 1 (-)
Barmenia= 1 (+1)


Seat C:

Indrala= 13 (+1)
Baltusia= 6 (-)
Kalistan= 6 (+2)
Likatonia= 4 (-)
Alduria= 3 (-1)
Valruzia= 3 (-)
Rildanor= 3 (-)
Mordusia= 3 (-)
Saridan= 2 (-)
Tukarali= 1 (-1)
Kanjor= 1 (-)
Aldegar= 1 (-)

Seat D:

New Endralon= 13 (-)
Hutori= 11 (-1)
Lourenne= 9 (+1)
Talmoria= 3 (-)
Trigunia= 3 (-)
Dankuk= 3 (+1)
Egelion= 1 (-1)
Hulstria= 1 (-)
Davostan= 1 (-)
Vorona= 1 (-)
Sekowo= 1 (+1)
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Re: World Congress & Security Council

Postby Polites » Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:50 am

4463 SECURITY COUNCIL ELECTION RESULTS

Permanent Members:
Dorvik
Istalia
Kazulia
Vanuku

Non-Permanent Members:
Seat A: Hawu Mumenhes
Seat B: Cobura
Seat C: Indrala
Seat D: New Endralon


Full Details:

Breakdown of the vote in each seat shown below. Change compared with last election show in brackets. One Non-Permanent members had two consecutive mandates, so the seat went to the next runner up.

Seat A:

Luthori= 22 (-)
Hawu Mumenhes= 7 (-)
Malivia= 6 (-)
Dundorf= 4 (+1)
Endralon= 2 (-)
Aloria= 2 (-)
Darnussia= 1 (-1)
Beluzia= 1 (-)
Hobrazia= 1 (-)
Kundrati= 1 (-)

Seat B:

Cobura= 15 (-2)
Selucia= 7 (-)
Deltaria= 5 (+1)
Cildania= 2 (-)
Beiteynu= 2 (-)
Pontesi= 2 (+1)
Jelbania= 1 (-)
Kafuristan= 1 (-)
Badara= 1 (-)
Barmenia= 1 (-)


Seat C:

Indrala= 14 (+1)
Baltusia= 6 (-)
Kalistan= 6 (-)
Likatonia= 4 (-)
Valruzia= 4 (+1)
Alduria= 3 (-)
Rildanor= 3 (-)
Mordusia= 2 (-1)
Saridan= 2 (-)
Tukarali= 1 (-)
Kanjor= 1 (-)
Aldegar= 1 (-)

Seat D:

New Endralon= 14 (+1)
Hutori= 10 (-1)
Lourenne= 9 (-)
Talmoria= 3 (-)
Trigunia= 3 (-)
Dankuk= 2 (-1)
Sekowo= 2 (+1)
Egelion= 1 (-)
Hulstria= 1 (-)
Davostan= 1 (-)
Vorona= 1 (-)
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Re: World Congress & Security Council

Postby Polites » Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:16 am

4478 SECURITY COUNCIL ELECTION RESULTS

Permanent Members:
Dorvik
Istalia
Kazulia
Vanuku

Non-Permanent Members:
Seat A: Luthori
Seat B: Cobura
Seat C: Indrala
Seat D: New Endralon


Full Details:

Breakdown of the vote in each seat shown below. Change compared with last election show in brackets.

Seat A:

Luthori= 20 (-2)
Hawu Mumenhes= 7 (-)
Malivia= 6 (-)
Dundorf= 6 (+2)
Endralon= 2 (-)
Aloria= 2 (-)
Darnussia= 1 (-)
Beluzia= 1 (-)
Hobrazia= 1 (-)
Kundrati= 1 (-)

Seat B:

Cobura= 15 (-)
Selucia= 9 (+2)
Deltaria= 5 (-)
Beiteynu= 3 (+1)
Cildania= 2 (-)
Pontesi= 2 (-)
Jelbania= 1 (-)
Kafuristan= 1 (-)
Badara= 1 (-)
Barmenia= 1 (-)

Seat C:

Indrala= 12 (-2)
Baltusia= 6 (-)
Kalistan= 6 (-)
Likatonia= 4 (-)
Valruzia= 3 (-1)
Alduria= 3 (-)
Rildanor= 3 (-)
Mordusia= 2 (-)
Saridan= 2 (-)
Aldegar= 2 (+1)
Tukarali= 1 (-)
Kanjor= 1 (-)
Gaduridos= 1 (+1)

Seat D:

New Endralon= 14 (-)
Hutori= 10 (-)
Lourenne= 9 (-)
Talmoria= 3 (-)
Trigunia= 3 (-)
Dankuk= 2 (-)
Sekowo= 2 (-)
Hulstria= 2 (+1)
Egelion= 1 (-)
Davostan= 1 (-)
Vorona= 1 (-)
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Re: World Congress & Security Council

Postby cm9777 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:21 am

4510 SECURITY COUNCIL ELECTION RESULTS

Permanent Members:
Deltaria
Hutori
Kazulia
Vanuku

Non-Permanent Members:
Seat A: Dorvik
Seat B: Kafuristan/Selucia (Permanent Members Decide)
Seat C: Indrala
Seat D: Lourenne


Full Details:

Breakdown of the vote in each seat shown below. Change compared with last election show in brackets.

Seat A:

Dorvik= 10 (+10)
Klavia Okeanó = 7 (+7)
Hawu Mumenhes= 1 (-6)
Luthori = 1 (-19)
Rutania= 1 (+1)
Dundorf= 1 (-1)
Hobrazia= 1 (+1)
Aloria= 1 (-1)
Darnussia= 1 (-)
Hobrazia= 1 (-)


Seat B: The winner of the seat will be decided by the permanent members.

Kafuristan= 7 (+6)
Selucia= 7(-2)
Istalia= 5 (+5)
Vanuku= 3 (+3)
Deltaria= 2 (-3)
Solentia= 1 (+1)

Seat C:

Indrala= 7 (-5)
Kalistan= 3 (-3)
Alduria= 3 (-0)
Lodamun= 2 (+2)
Valruzia= 1 (-2)
Mordusia= 1 (-1)


Seat D:

Lourenne= 14 (+5)
Hutori= 3 (-7)
Sekowo= 3 (+1)
New Endralon= 2 (+2)
Hulstria= 2 (+2)
Talmoria= 1 (+1)
Telemon= 1 (+1)
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Re: World Congress & Security Council

Postby Polites » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:37 am

Please don't forget to do the election for this month.
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