CCP wrote:Doc, who is the player that's bothering you? The Revolutionary People's Party player?
I was very sympathetic to your post and was going to post some stray thoughts on how we might make some game-wide changes to address this recurrent issue. But then I looked at Kalistan, and all I see is a new party proposing bills, and you and the Labor Party player telling him of her why they shouldn't propose those bills, and then you and the Labor Party player reducing the number of new bills the player can propose. Proposing bills opposed to the majority party's position is how the game is played. I think you're worrying over nothing. Even if s/he gets a majority (which is doubtful given you and Labor Party's visibility), I think the longterm story you've developed in Kalistan is resilient enough to survive a new party.
Agreed on all points that James made, and to add one of my own:
I think the RPP was just the most recent manifestation of the problem I am pointing at. It ain't them specifically. My problem is more with a Party coming in without taking any time to bother to learn about the country he (or she, I don't know) is about to start playing in, not asking any questions, not reading ANY of the RP bills which, whatever their plan is, still govern the limits of RP in the country. I know Kalistan isn't the only country this happens in, but it is the country I happen to know most about.
The problem which I am addressing in this thread is that this sort of development happens way too often, and not just in Kalistan. And it is obnoxious. I don't care if they feel that they have to propose a bunch of laws to establish their position- Unlike a real electorate, which knows the difference between a legitimate political position within the context of our country's history and development, and a charlatan who goes out and claims that Aliens are invading and so we need to give the government extraordinary powers to address this, elections in Particracy are decided by pure math, without regard for the nonsense our political leaders RP or simply just claim. In the real world, claiming you are a fascist in a "socialist" country has actual consequences, while in Kalistan, there are zero consequences for what one says, and only for the votes one takes. And that the players who are there already should be powerless to stop them when they are OOC not interested in learning anything about the country, just because, as of the fact that a party must propose "controversial" bills to get established seems to me to be unreasonable.
So, back to my original question: How do we encourage new Parties to observe the established RP history BEFORE they attempt a unilateral retcon of the Country's current situation, BEYOND the election mechanism? And I suppose then, what tools do we have to sanction them when they refuse to do so?