Consultation on Military Ranking

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Re: Consultation on Military Ranking

Postby Maxington » Thu May 25, 2017 5:06 pm

Mpro20 wrote:I would like to ask to increase Zardugal's power ranking as we have access to weapons of mass Destruction, are stable and despite some any economic turbulence, have maintained a proportionally very high military spending (currently 100,000,000,000 ZAR which is eg double that of our Infrastructure spending) and we have also deregulated that market, so the weapons companies could make a lot of money and therefore improve the equipment of the forces. Furthermore anyone in the army is very well trained due to the lack of conscription, everyone is Professional.


I would contest these statements due to the fact that I have been in Zardugal and the reason for its ranking is due to me. There is a difference between stating that you possess weapons of mass destruction and roleplaying (factual evidence) showing that you have these weapons. You have "deregulated" the market in under 4-5 days. There has been no roleplay in Zardugal suggesting the modernization or improvement of the equipment of the Zardic Armed Forces, that last thing roleplay wise pertaining to the Zardic Armed Forces was a post I made launching the an internal defence review. This defence review was not taken up by your party and as such there is no justification nor evidence to show that improvement to the equipment and training of the Zardic Armed Forces were made after i left. You have not even proposed any bill pertaining to your "deregulation" of the market. So what are you truly trying to achieve there? It is ranked as a regional power under the work i have done to return it to that ranking. If you feel to contest this you can, this is a consultation period.
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Re: Consultation on Military Ranking

Postby Mpro20 » Thu May 25, 2017 5:42 pm

Firstly, I would like to ask you to return to Zardugal XD it was fun, and you are very good at RP.
But secondly, I do not understand why the new military review that you have made, would not have been adopted after the change in power. Also, how much time is it until the final ranking (or until the next) so that I could potentially update the military, and officially add weapons of mass destruction (in the Zardic legislation it said that we had the right to produce and use nukes, so I assumed by default that I had them, will correct that).
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Re: Consultation on Military Ranking

Postby Maxington » Thu May 25, 2017 5:46 pm

Your next ranking is around November of this year. As you are ranked a regional power, you can state that you have a limited number of weapons of mass destruction (numbers similar to that of either france or the united kingdom).
So: Are you in approval of your ranking recognizing your lack of evidence to support your claim?
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Re: Consultation on Military Ranking

Postby TheTsar » Thu May 25, 2017 5:52 pm

Would Trigunia be able to keep its number of atomic and hydrogen warheads at the time when it was a Great Power?
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Re: Consultation on Military Ranking

Postby Mpro20 » Thu May 25, 2017 5:54 pm

As long as I have weapons of mass destruction, I am fine with being a strong regional power, even though I still believe my high military budget would be enough to increase Zardugalo to the higher rank, as you know more funds better equipment etc. but if you insist, I am fine with it staying strong, yet regional, power.
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Re: Consultation on Military Ranking

Postby Corvo Attano » Thu May 25, 2017 6:02 pm

So....Questions

What about helicopter carriers?
What about Heavy and light cruisers?
What about nuclear submarines?


Generally speaking what changes do I need to make this to make it cannon?

http://particracy.wikia.com/wiki/Milita ... med_Forces

Malivia does not have weapons of mass destruction and these were generally acquired under the Malivian Imperium Regime 3700 something when I did two terms of the maximum term limit and put like 300 Billion MCR to rearm the entire malivian forces. And yes you may say those are a lot of weapons but their not minus the ships,submarines and planes.

I don't have a problem with my ranking I just want to create a mostly correct RP armed force for Malivia.
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Re: Consultation on Military Ranking

Postby Maxington » Thu May 25, 2017 6:29 pm

Corvo Attano wrote:So....Questions

What about helicopter carriers?
What about Heavy and light cruisers?
What about nuclear submarines?


Generally speaking what changes do I need to make this to make it cannon?

http://particracy.wikia.com/wiki/Milita ... med_Forces

Malivia does not have weapons of mass destruction and these were generally acquired under the Malivian Imperium Regime 3700 something when I did two terms of the maximum term limit and put like 300 Billion MCR to rearm the entire malivian forces. And yes you may say those are a lot of weapons but their not.

I don't have a problem with my ranking I just want to create a mostly correct RP armed force for Malivia.



*A helicopter carrier is an amphibious warfare vessel.
**With respect to heavy cruisers i would refrain from having them on your inventory, especially as a middle power. The numbers of the equipment you have need to be reduced dramatically before it is even considered to be realistic in the eyes of a hardcore military role-player like myself.
***If you are a middle power, you cannot possess nuclear weapons, as such nuclear weapons and nuclear submarines would not be a commodity owned/possessed by Malivia.
****It is advised that you craft your armed forces around the armed forces of the Caribbean islands such as Trinidad and Tobago, Jamaica and the Dominican Republic. I can do on talking about the numbers and their unrealistic proportions however, this thread is not the place to do so. Think of Malivia as the Caribbean but on a much larger scale.

TheTsar wrote:Would Trigunia be able to keep its number of atomic and hydrogen warheads at the time when it was a Great Power?


These numbers would be decreased. Due to the fact that you conducted no roleplay pertaining to the upgrade and maintenance of your nuclear arsenal it is assumed that many of the nuclear weapons (which i made for trigunia when i was there, through intense roleplay) would be retired. It its peak Trigunia possessed around 560 nuclear missiles, so the numbers now would decrease by 55%.
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Re: Consultation on Military Ranking

Postby Corvo Attano » Thu May 25, 2017 6:34 pm

Maxington wrote:
Corvo Attano wrote:So....Questions

What about helicopter carriers?
What about Heavy and light cruisers?
What about nuclear submarines?


Generally speaking what changes do I need to make this to make it cannon?

http://particracy.wikia.com/wiki/Milita ... med_Forces

Malivia does not have weapons of mass destruction and these were generally acquired under the Malivian Imperium Regime 3700 something when I did two terms of the maximum term limit and put like 300 Billion MCR to rearm the entire malivian forces. And yes you may say those are a lot of weapons but their not.

I don't have a problem with my ranking I just want to create a mostly correct RP armed force for Malivia.



*A helicopter carrier is an amphibious warfare vessel.
**With respect to heavy cruisers i would refrain from having them on your inventory, especially as a middle power. The numbers of the equipment you have need to be reduced dramatically before it is even considered to be realistic in the eyes of a hardcore military role-player like myself.
***If you are a middle power, you cannot possess nuclear weapons, as such nuclear weapons and nuclear submarines would not be a commodity owned/possessed by Malivia.
****It is advised that you craft your armed forces around the armed forces of the Caribbean islands such as Trinidad and Tobago, Jamaica and the Dominican Republic. I can do on talking about the numbers and their unrealistic proportions however, this thread is not the place to do so. Think of Malivia as the Caribbean but on a much larger scale.

TheTsar wrote:Would Trigunia be able to keep its number of atomic and hydrogen warheads at the time when it was a Great Power?


These numbers would be decreased. Due to the fact that you conducted no roleplay pertaining to the upgrade and maintenance of your nuclear arsenal it is assumed that many of the nuclear weapons (which i made for trigunia when i was there, through intense roleplay) would be retired. It its peak Trigunia possessed around 560 nuclear missiles, so the numbers now would decrease by 55%.

Okay I will remove a lot of stuff but what does culture got to do with weaponry? I like the weapons we already have and don't wanna be state 41 Service rifle is M4 like everyone else.Plus Malivia is Mainland Jungle nation even if our culture is Caribbean.
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Re: Consultation on Military Ranking

Postby Maxington » Thu May 25, 2017 6:40 pm

Corvo Attano wrote:
Maxington wrote:
Corvo Attano wrote:So....Questions

What about helicopter carriers?
What about Heavy and light cruisers?
What about nuclear submarines?


Generally speaking what changes do I need to make this to make it cannon?

http://particracy.wikia.com/wiki/Milita ... med_Forces

Malivia does not have weapons of mass destruction and these were generally acquired under the Malivian Imperium Regime 3700 something when I did two terms of the maximum term limit and put like 300 Billion MCR to rearm the entire malivian forces. And yes you may say those are a lot of weapons but their not.

I don't have a problem with my ranking I just want to create a mostly correct RP armed force for Malivia.



*A helicopter carrier is an amphibious warfare vessel.
**With respect to heavy cruisers i would refrain from having them on your inventory, especially as a middle power. The numbers of the equipment you have need to be reduced dramatically before it is even considered to be realistic in the eyes of a hardcore military role-player like myself.
***If you are a middle power, you cannot possess nuclear weapons, as such nuclear weapons and nuclear submarines would not be a commodity owned/possessed by Malivia.
****It is advised that you craft your armed forces around the armed forces of the Caribbean islands such as Trinidad and Tobago, Jamaica and the Dominican Republic. I can do on talking about the numbers and their unrealistic proportions however, this thread is not the place to do so. Think of Malivia as the Caribbean but on a much larger scale.

TheTsar wrote:Would Trigunia be able to keep its number of atomic and hydrogen warheads at the time when it was a Great Power?


These numbers would be decreased. Due to the fact that you conducted no roleplay pertaining to the upgrade and maintenance of your nuclear arsenal it is assumed that many of the nuclear weapons (which i made for trigunia when i was there, through intense roleplay) would be retired. It its peak Trigunia possessed around 560 nuclear missiles, so the numbers now would decrease by 55%.

Okay I will remove a lot of stuff but what does culture got to do with weaponry? I like the weapons we already have and don't wanna be state 41 Service rifle is M4 like everyone else.Plus Malivia is Mainland Jungle nation even if our culture is Caribbean.


For me, personally the cultural protocol bases on how i should structure my armed forces. For example, when i was in Endralon a country based off of Austria, i obtained Austrian military equipment as the base of my armed forces, thereafter i began roleplaying me buying, tanks, aircraft and vessels from other countries. But that is personally me. If you need help with this, know that you are never alone in particracy, people are willing to help. I am willing to help.
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Re: Consultation on Military Ranking

Postby Corvo Attano » Thu May 25, 2017 6:45 pm

Maxington wrote:For me, personally the cultural protocol bases on how i should structure my armed forces. For example, when i was in Endralon a country based off of Austria, i obtained Austrian military equipment as the base of my armed forces, thereafter i began roleplaying me buying, tanks, aircraft and vessels from other countries. But that is personally me. If you need help with this, know that you are never alone in particracy, people are willing to help. I am willing to help.


Where can I go to continue this discussion without derailing this thread?
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