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Re: OOC: Lourenne/Kalistan/Kazulia Conflict RP Planning

Postby M13 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:35 am

I would cast a message that Lodamun Navy is conducting exercices, in secrecy, in the zone round Ananto.
Maybe something could happen there.
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Re: OOC: Lourenne/Kalistan/Kazulia Conflict RP Planning

Postby M13 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:16 am

The Lodamese 2nd Fleet is currently sailing east of the coast of Ananto, officialy conducting exercises. They will also execute live firing with missiles, torpedoes and deckguns.
The 2nd Fleet consists of:
A1905 Fertig (Command vessel, hosting the Staff)
F1985, F1986, F1989, F1992 (Project 42C-frigates, constructed 4006-4009)
F195, F196, F199 (Project 35-frigates, constructed 3991-3994)
C56, C59 (Garlandclass cruiser, constructed 4008-4010)
A1902 Walrus (Replenishment vessel, constructed 3975)
A1900 Koeie (Replenishment vessel, constructed 4006)
P-06, P-08, P-09, P-13, P-14, P-15 (wellarmed patrol vessels, constructed 4005-4009)
D1960, D1961, D1962, D1963, D1966, D1968 (Project 37 destroyers, constructed 3993-3997)
S92, S93, S94 (Ealclass submarine, diesel, constructed 3999-4002)
S32, S33 (Pietermanclass submarine, nuclear, constructed 4009-4011)
R-19001 (Type 335 helicopter carrier, constructed 4002 - equipped with 8 assault helo, 3 SAR and 1 RAS)

The First Fleet is getting prepared as well. If you want I can have them over in two weeks.
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Re: OOC: Lourenne/Kalistan/Kazulia Conflict RP Planning

Postby Doc » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:51 pm

Ill have Kalistan run a short vignette about joint live fire exercises between Kalistan and Lodamun against dummy ships out in the international waters off the Dah Delta, close to where the Lorennaise Frigate was sunk, just to keep the heat up on the RP thread. But it is time to begin thinking of an endgame because the arrival of the Kalistani Navy was not really something I had planned at the beginning.

By Q2 4413, we will complete the Bozo River Facility. At this point, our naval capacity in the Northern Anantonese Ocean will dramatically increase, and I would like to avoid an all out hot war, and return to focus on domestic and diplomatic matters. Once that facility is opened, we will unilatterally reopen the Straits to commercial shipping, and remove the transit pass restrictions. I am still up in the air about what to do with regard to military shipping. Perhaps you all have some suggestions, but I won't have Kalistan ever agree that those are international waters under the Laws of the Sea open to free transit by military powers- We got too much stuff out in that strait, to include oil platforms, intra-district shipping, and the entire place basically is our Navy's live fire range. If it is not recognized as de jure Kalistani National territory, it sure is de facto. We won't re-ratify that treaty as long as I am in Kalistan. So other possible solutions will be welcomed.

How do we wrap this up now that four nations are all quasi involved in a war that isn't really? ;)
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Re: OOC: Lourenne/Kalistan/Kazulia Conflict RP Planning

Postby Luis1p » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:18 pm

Doc wrote:Ill have Kalistan run a short vignette about joint live fire exercises between Kalistan and Lodamun against dummy ships out in the international waters off the Dah Delta, close to where the Lorennaise Frigate was sunk, just to keep the heat up on the RP thread. But it is time to begin thinking of an endgame because the arrival of the Kalistani Navy was not really something I had planned at the beginning.

By Q2 4413, we will complete the Bozo River Facility. At this point, our naval capacity in the Northern Anantonese Ocean will dramatically increase, and I would like to avoid an all out hot war, and return to focus on domestic and diplomatic matters. Once that facility is opened, we will unilatterally reopen the Straits to commercial shipping, and remove the transit pass restrictions. I am still up in the air about what to do with regard to military shipping. Perhaps you all have some suggestions, but I won't have Kalistan ever agree that those are international waters under the Laws of the Sea open to free transit by military powers- We got too much stuff out in that strait, to include oil platforms, intra-district shipping, and the entire place basically is our Navy's live fire range. If it is not recognized as de jure Kalistani National territory, it sure is de facto. We won't re-ratify that treaty as long as I am in Kalistan. So other possible solutions will be welcomed.

How do we wrap this up now that four nations are all quasi involved in a war that isn't really? ;)


Hmm. We could've have a battle in the North Anantonese. Some Kalistan ships, Lourennais ships, and Lodamum ones too? I'm open to whatever anyone plans really. I'd say that this should be the last battle before peace negotiations
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Re: OOC: Lourenne/Kalistan/Kazulia Conflict RP Planning

Postby M13 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:22 pm

When this matter seems to get serious, maybe the protagonists could work out a plan to create a zone other than territorial waters, but that still has a certain exclusivity for one or several nations.

For the firing exercise: since our sea-to-sea launchers are newly wired and have updated software, something could go wrong... Maybe we'll hit another warship, that would retaliate. Obviously, after a few punches back and forth, politics should solve the matter.
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Re: OOC: Lourenne/Kalistan/Kazulia Conflict RP Planning

Postby Luis1p » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:08 pm

M13 wrote:When this matter seems to get serious, maybe the protagonists could work out a plan to create a zone other than territorial waters, but that still has a certain exclusivity for one or several nations.

For the firing exercise: since our sea-to-sea launchers are newly wired and have updated software, something could go wrong... Maybe we'll hit another warship, that would retaliate. Obviously, after a few punches back and forth, politics should solve the matter.


Yea, software thing could work. As we set up peace negotiations, I can have my tech companies expand to Lodamum to work on new software systems and tech for Lodamum, same thing with Kalistan
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Re: OOC: Lourenne/Kalistan/Kazulia Conflict RP Planning

Postby M13 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:06 pm

Luis1p wrote:
Hmm. We could've have a battle in the North Anantonese. Some Kalistan ships, Lourennais ships, and Lodamum ones too? I'm open to whatever anyone plans really. I'd say that this should be the last battle before peace negotiations



Lodamun is in, but we would only send in the 2nd Fleet. There would be no small forces, no aircraftcarrier and probably no amphibious ships neither. We would be ready for peace then, and maybe some additional treaties and cooperations.
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Re: OOC: Lourenne/Kalistan/Kazulia Conflict RP Planning

Postby Doc » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:07 pm

Luis1p wrote:
M13 wrote:When this matter seems to get serious, maybe the protagonists could work out a plan to create a zone other than territorial waters, but that still has a certain exclusivity for one or several nations.

For the firing exercise: since our sea-to-sea launchers are newly wired and have updated software, something could go wrong... Maybe we'll hit another warship, that would retaliate. Obviously, after a few punches back and forth, politics should solve the matter.


Yea, software thing could work. As we set up peace negotiations, I can have my tech companies expand to Lodamum to work on new software systems and tech for Lodamum, same thing with Kalistan


Kalistan is down. Obviously, I'm not going to put the new Navy into the battle, but I'll put in some LAFA ships.

Here's how this could play out. A few squads of the Kalistani LAFAs could escort one or more Lodamese ships up around the North Limit, when they sight a Lourennaise detatchment headed for them. Lodamun could attempt to contact Lourenne with orders to turn back, Lourenne could refuse to comply, and Lodamun could prep naval fire, but the safety could fail and the weapons can fire. A Lourenne ship could be hit, but not catastrophically. Perhaps half of the LAFAs will spring into action when they notice the Lodamese firing, and zip off toward the Lourenne ships, and be blown up by Lourenne before they get there, a tense maneuvering period ensues, and the Lourenne naval Frigate reinforcements from the north arrive just as Kalistani Destroyers arrive from the South.

Lodamun could unilatterally contact the Lourenne ships with an immediate cease fire offer, and offer to arrange a truce to avoid massive loss of life and destructive war. Then we can get into the politics.

How does this sound?
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Re: OOC: Lourenne/Kalistan/Kazulia Conflict RP Planning

Postby Maxington » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:33 pm

The most I will be able to do since i want to have a limited role in the Lodamun intervention is provide maritime surveillance and basically help Lourennais ships find Loduman and Kalistan's vessels.
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Re: OOC: Lourenne/Kalistan/Kazulia Conflict RP Planning

Postby M13 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:22 am

Check! Fine by me
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