OOC War Planning for Deltarian War

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OOC War Planning for Deltarian War

Postby Rogue » Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:25 pm

Start of the war: June 4635
Deltaria launches suprise attack against the istalian fleet after which Istalia and Vanuku declare war


Coalition assembles forces: July to August 4635
The coalition assembles its forces in Stormkaap and the Vanukan fleet picks up istalian forces after the decimation of their fleet

Coalition forces launch their combined invasion of Jakania and Deltaria: October 4635
The coalition launches a major invasion of Jakania and Deltaria, a bombing campaign continues throughout the invasion quikcly overwhelming the Deltarian airforce and, with Istalian missiles hitting deltarian targets, Istalian morale starts rising again.

Coalition liberates Jakania after hard fought campaign: December 4635
The coalition drives the last deltarian troops out of Jakania after suffering major casualties and Jakania itself being mostly devastated by the fighting. Coalition forces wait with crossing the border as their forces are to weakened to immediately launch a assault into the mainland.
The coalition fleet finally manages to destroy the Deltarian home fleet stationed near the deltarian coast and Coalition forces finally launch their main naval invasion onto Deltarian shores.

Deltarian Czar calls for Deltaria to fight: January 4636
As Coalition troops finally attack from all sides with air superiority aiding them the deltarian czar calls on every man and woman to fight "till no enemy soldier is left" with a additional 200.000 people joining deltarian ranks in the coming weeks as a result. They are however poorly equipped and not trained, the deltarian army starts to disintergrate but fights for every inch of the homeland, resorting to guerilla tactics and systematic destruction to try and inflict as many casualties as possible

Cahtice is besieged, last Deltarian units make their stand, Deltarian navy launches attempt to break Coalition fleet: March 4636
The coalition has by now taken most of Deltaria and managed to find and confiscate its only nuclear bomb. Cahtice, the last Deltarian holdout, is besieged by coalition forces and a brutal house to house urban battle ensues. Meanwhile the deltarian navy, which has until now mostly resorted to convoy raiding in the open sea, launches a desperate attempt with its Nemec carrier strike group and Yegorovich carrier strike group to break the Coalition fleet and establish one last victory for Deltarian forces. They fail however and the last Nemec carrier and several of its support ships are sunk, dooming any attempt at a naval victory.

Cahtice is captured, the Czar attempts to escape but fails to do so, Czar abdicates: Late January to Early February 4636
Cahtice after a brutal siege and thousands dead (including the city being entirely devastated) is finally captured, the Deltarian Czar tries to escape but is captured just outside of the capital. Under pressure from the Coalition he officially signs his abdication and the Deltarian surrender. Deltaria is carved up into occupation zones (to be determined after) and its armed forces are disbanded. The remaining ground troops (350.000 or so) still fighting in pockets accross the country surrender within days. The war is over.
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Re: OOC War Planning for Deltarian War

Postby Sisyphus » Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:22 pm

Ok, thanks for setting up this thread, Mr God.

So from my point of view I'd like to propose this:

1) War is declared on Deltaria by Vanuku and Istalia (both war consent bills are now passing).

2) Vanuku has assembled a carrier task force of over 100 ships (viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1605&p=151112&hilit=Krsyijka#p151112) and this will embark over the next few days. To put it into perspective this is about the size of the British fleet sent to liberate the Falklands but with one more aircraft carrier added.

3) After agreements with Istalia we will rendezvous with their forces at the port of Alaria, re-fuel, re-supply there and then transport and escort their troops while they continue to rebuild their navy.

4) We set sail for Jakania - and launch a joint invasion in the south east of the country - bloody fighting ensues with Deltarian troops well emplaced but eventually a beach head is created.

4) Meanwhile our naval battle group in the Majatran Sea attempts to carry out a blockade of Deltaria and declares the Ushalande Bay a war zone that all ships enter at their own risk. We release a list of war contraband that cannot be traded with Deltaria and announce we will turn back any ship trying to trade contraband goods with Deltaria. This may lead to good naval RP with Deltaria and other nations trying to trade.

5) International coalition forces arrive in the theatre (I've already said in the World Congress they can rendezvous and refuel at Stormkaap Island naval and military base). They then set sail for Jakania and join Istalian and Vanukean forces in the Jakanian beachhead and slowly and surely grind down Deltarian forces.

6) With Jakania liberated, attention turns to the Deltarian homeland - a second amphibious invasion in northern Deltaria and a final push from north and south towards the capital.

7) While all this is going on, Vanuku would intend to launch an ongoing cruise missile and bombing campaign over Deltaria to try and wear down war moral. However, this may be limited based on Deltaria's HEAT defence system doing its job.

These are just suggestions and happy to change any of these, if necessary. But I think it achieves what we want whilst allowing the Deltarian forces to put up a good show to the bitter end.
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Re: OOC War Planning for Deltarian War

Postby Rogue » Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:33 pm

I could agree to something like this. Although these articles should follow up eachother rather quickly (due to our intention of keeping the conflict within those 3 years) could you be able to do that? Also do you agree with the occupation plan? And. For the deltarian navy. It will mostly be focussing on harassing coalition trade lines and maybe get involved in one more major naval battle (possibly trying to open up the blockade with one strike group, doing heavy damage but being partially destroyed and not breaking the blockade.

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Re: OOC War Planning for Deltarian War

Postby Sisyphus » Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:12 pm

I agree with the occupation plan and the naval stuff - that works for me fine.

In terms of the timeframe, well, I think, with the best will in the world, you are not going to achieve this complex an RP in three game years (six days) if you are a stickler for timings. There are too many people involved, too many RPs to write, too much RL stuff that will get in the way etc etc.
My suggestion: best to not stick to the actual game time as a time frame, so we can develop the RP, let it evolve, let more people have the chance to get involved and go from there.
You can always say after the event it took three years - or not refer to the actual time it took at all. I think in the Hulstrian War we spent more than five RL weeks planning it and executing it but no one suggested the conflict lasted 90-plus years! On that basis we can say it lasts as long as it lasts and take our time getting it right.

Hope that helps, I'd be interested to hear what others think.
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Re: OOC War Planning for Deltarian War

Postby Auditorii » Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:38 pm

I agree with more or less everything that has been suggested here and here's my idea for the Dorvish role in the war.

1. Dorvik is focused on state building and wants to see the Deltarian threat handled due to its regional allies Vanuku being threatened by them.

2. Dorvik would likely focus on conducting a war against Deltaria as the other Majatran powers focus on Jakania. Dorvik would come through into the Majatran Sea, aided by the Vanukuean providing temporary basing rights via the Security Council and conduct its war from there.

3. Dorvik, alongside I envision Vanuku primarily would be the primary ground combatants in Deltaria and others joining in.

4. Dorvish losses would be heavy but Dorvik's focus would be on capturing any noteworthy landmarks such as airfields, nuclear power plants, the search for WMDs and hunting down "war criminals".

5. I think Deltaria makes perfect sense for a diverse conflict. We could easily fracture Deltaria due to its dozen different ethnicities and make the overlay like a Yugoslavian Wars where different groups are competing for influence in the post-invasion country.

6. While Dorvik would advise occupation. They prefer collaboration and would likely only setup a temporary state commissariat to oversee new elections, etc.

7. Obvious economic and other benefits following the post war Deltaria.

8. As a final point I think we 100% set a time frame based on the initial nuclear tests and make it a 3 to 5 year war and we just RP it despite game time progressing. Fluid time is great and it's an awesome RP asset so people can post when they can.
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Re: OOC War Planning for Deltarian War

Postby Sisyphus » Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:46 pm

Ok. That all sounds good. Well, Vanuku and Istalia have now declared war so will be heading towards Jakania to start the liberation as soon as we can.

In the meantime all other interested parties - Dorvik and Kalistan predominantly - can renezvous at our military/naval base in Stormkaap and then we can plan our attack on Deltaria from there.

Does that sound ok? You happy with that, Mr God? Anyone else got anything to add?
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Re: OOC War Planning for Deltarian War

Postby Auditorii » Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:51 pm

I think that we should set the dates for the war first and foremost. I'd assume we want to start from the date of the Deltarian invasion into Jakania, perhaps a "week" later to give sometime for us to have met and discussed in the Security Council.
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Re: OOC War Planning for Deltarian War

Postby Rogue » Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:13 am

I agree with that. We will also need a "enddate" i feel like the ground war should last at most 1 IG year. After which deltaria collapses and surrenders. In the end the nation should be occupied until i get tge necessary bills passed. After that it will be "released" as a Federation. As stated before
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Re: OOC War Planning for Deltarian War

Postby ChitinKal » Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:58 pm

Providing only a small number of non-government volunteers, Kalistan's role in this conflict.

1. Kalistan will provide 5000 combat personnel and 1500 medical personnel for the liberation of Jakania and any sort of peacekeeping mission that might take place following its liberation.

2. The Kalistani force will not participate in the invasion of Deltaria, and will instead remain stationed in Jakania after its liberation where it will provide assistance (Mostly medical) to the liberated populace.

3. If Deltaria will continue missions around Galduridos and go north into the Ananto Sea for trade interdiction, I could see a few possible naval skirmishes between Kalistan and Deltaria if our trading ships are attacked. I could also see Kalistani ships raiding the trade routes between Deltaria and her allies that go through the Ananto Ocean (I'm thinking primarily of Dankuk).
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Re: OOC War Planning for Deltarian War

Postby XanderOne » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:04 pm

I will follow the points proposed by Sysiphus.

But I want to add these 3 things:

- Istalian Air Force's long range bombers raids against deltarian objectives in Jakania and Deltaria in support of the ground forces (probably Kalopia will allow Istalia to deploy its jets in Kalopia as well as already agreed to make pass istalian troops on its territory).

- Istalian submarines and some cruiser for the moment will join the Vanukean to cut the deltarian supply lines.

- 5 submarines will reach as soon as possible northern shores of Deltaria and will launch some dozen of cruise missiles (with conventional warheads) against an important industrial installation, maybe a rafinery. A retailation mission for the istalian morale and to show that the shores of Deltaria are not so safe and unachievable.

I was the one to propose that MY fleet would be so demaged and I accepted that more than half of my ship would be destroyed and damaged. I think I'm not asking something of unrealistic.

I don't thinking that I'm asking too much.

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