QV73 wrote:Auditorii wrote:"decolonized for over a thousand IG years" doesn't equate necessarily the same way for TW nations and "player" nations. TW nations have had far less RP, many of them going long periods of time being totally empty and devoid of any significant events. As for the countries that you've mentioned they've had DOZENS of players who contributed HUNDREDS of posts and articles to build them up to where they are, so that is not an equal footing regardless of current player count or status. It is completely different.
That's a reasonable point, I'm certainly not stating these nations don't have a long climb ahead of them to get to parity with the non-colonised ones. I just think having this layer in the rankings be completely inaccessible to the far-east nations is unnecessary and may discourage people in these nations from investing their time into good development RP. Dorvik has historically had major parties that were not Farsun-controlled, but for hundreds of IG years has been dominated by Farsun and Farsun alone. Similar story in Kazulia and Lourenne. You're a great RPer but if your concern is accessibility to as broad a range of players as possible for great powers, I simply don't get ya.
Why not just not upgrade anybody this time? Why remove the layer? It seems a bit excessive to me.
but I've never said that they can't access the rankings, if I did perhaps a better statement would be what I responded to Lucipher, that we don't feel any currently occupied TW nations match up to the status of a Great Power and I can't speak for the future but we don't feel any will match up to player nations currently or in the coming future. TW nations will always have the disadvantages of not being totally known to 100% of the player base, similar to how the forums somehow escape elements of the player base. TW nations can become Great Powers, albeit slightly "differently" than player nations in my opinion. They are usually neglected compared to players nations, I can speak to that personally and I am sure that many players here who have a TW nation underneath their thumb can easily state that they are easy to "forget" and that plays a factor.
In your case, Vascania is a prime example and Ostland for myself, of nations that have consistently put out solid RP and have generally been "active" but they still have periods and gaps (usually a hundred or so years) where nothing happens or very limited happens with them. While this does 100% happen in player nations, its less frequent in those that we tend to see at the "top" of the rankings food chain.