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Feedback: Historical RP area

Postby Auditorii » Tue May 26, 2020 9:19 pm

Greetings all,

Vesica and I had chatted a bit about potentially adding a new area to the forum (in addition to updates to the forum overall) in which we'll add an area dedicated to "pre-game" RP, basically dating prior to 2000 (when PT started) and for some specific nations prior to their creation as in-game playable nations. This area would be loosely "canon" as there will certainly be discrepancies that we'll have to work through but it's an idea and we wanted to get feedback on the idea before we made any decisions.

Thanks all!
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Re: Feedback: Historical RP area

Postby robmark0000 » Tue May 26, 2020 9:24 pm

I think this is a very good idea, I anno created a detailed and fully history for Endralon before 2000. But many nations don't have history or they history before 2000 is very deficient, so this'll be interesting.
But you can read about Endralon full history in the next page: https://particracy.fandom.com/wiki/History_of_Endralon

I'am ready for change in this history in every points, but I want to keep it as the body of the history.
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Re: Feedback: Historical RP area

Postby Pragma » Tue May 26, 2020 9:25 pm

I think this is an absolutely excellent idea, I think it would really enrich the cultural RP. I've been working on some of the Vascanian ancient history so this could be really good from my POV. I do have a few questions though that I see as needing to be resolved:

a) Would this include third world nations?
b) Could we potentially go back as far as we wanted? i.e. Back to the classical era.
c) In what format would this RP take place? Obviously if you went back far enough it couldn't be just a newspaper so at some point would it be best as like a modern day article about the past or a at-the-time, narrative-style account of past events?
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Re: Feedback: Historical RP area

Postby Auditorii » Tue May 26, 2020 9:27 pm

QV73 wrote:I think this is an absolutely excellent idea, I think it would really enrich the cultural RP. I've been working on some of the Vascanian ancient history so this could be really good from my POV. I do have a few questions though that I see as needing to be resolved:

a) Would this include third world nations?
b) Could we potentially go back as far as we wanted? i.e. Back to the classical era.
c) In what format would this RP take place? Obviously if you went back far enough it couldn't be just a newspaper so at some point would it be best as like a modern day article about the past or a at-the-time, narrative-style account of past events?


This would include the Third World, but it would largely be focused on playable nations. Indeed, it wouldn't necessarily have a time period "limit" and it would likely be through newspapers, journal articles, etc.

Feedback topics as a whole are not necessarily things that are going to happen or things that will happen but ideas that Vesica and I have floated that might be interesting to see. I know the topic has come up before and the ability to build a single, pre-game history is beyond measure but it could provide some interesting background depth.
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Re: Feedback: Historical RP area

Postby Augustus Germanus » Tue May 26, 2020 9:30 pm

I agree, this is a very good idea. As I stated here: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8744, and here: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4349&start=154, I have been planning to find a good way to put the Kivonians (Davostani Befäskars) in Davostags pre-game history. So again great idea.
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Re: Feedback: Historical RP area

Postby John Cracker » Tue May 26, 2020 9:31 pm

I like this idea
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Re: Feedback: Historical RP area

Postby Rogue » Tue May 26, 2020 9:33 pm

While i like the idea and think it could lead to some good RP. I must say that i have some concerns with this contradicting with current RP. First of all. Would the nation you play in be the nation you control in this thread? If this is the case you would have to track them all and since some people (including me) dont play in any specific nation for long (although that might change for me) you would have to constantly change that register.

Furthermore that RP could contradict already existing pre-game history OR throw into the balance current RP by changing history used by a current existing party of which the value will then completely evaporate.
I think if we were to start this the third world shouldnt be included (its already hard enough to fill it up with players now, let alone if we create historicaly playable third world nations)
I think it should be limited to a specific time period and furthermore i would leave the "style" in the middle for now. Leave it to the players if this does move on.

As it stands i have those doubts about something like this. Looking forward to the response
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Re: Feedback: Historical RP area

Postby Luis1p » Tue May 26, 2020 9:50 pm

Mr.God wrote:While i like the idea and think it could lead to some good RP. I must say that i have some concerns with this contradicting with current RP. First of all. Would the nation you play in be the nation you control in this thread? If this is the case you would have to track them all and since some people (including me) dont play in any specific nation for long (although that might change for me) you would have to constantly change that register.

Furthermore that RP could contradict already existing pre-game history OR throw into the balance current RP by changing history used by a current existing party of which the value will then completely evaporate.
I think if we were to start this the third world shouldnt be included (its already hard enough to fill it up with players now, let alone if we create historicaly playable third world nations)
I think it should be limited to a specific time period and furthermore i would leave the "style" in the middle for now. Leave it to the players if this does move on.

As it stands i have those doubts about something like this. Looking forward to the response


Yup, I'm going to agree to what most of Mr. God said. While it definitely is a good boost for excellent RP, there are other problems that will come up, especially concerning existing RP.
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Re: Feedback: Historical RP area

Postby Doc » Tue May 26, 2020 10:50 pm

Excellent idea about “pre-history.” My predecessor in Kalistan, pentalarc, wrote fantastic pre-history, much of which has been lost due to people saying “oh, this bullshit don’t make any sense, and doesn’t apply to me, so I’ll just ignore it and act like it never happened.” I have however, been able to preserve a lot of it, and would like to formally add it to a canon record at some point.
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Re: Feedback: Historical RP area

Postby Yolo04 » Tue May 26, 2020 11:16 pm

Doc wrote:Excellent idea about “pre-history.” My predecessor in Kalistan, pentalarc, wrote fantastic pre-history, much of which has been lost due to people saying “oh, this bullshit don’t make any sense, and doesn’t apply to me, so I’ll just ignore it and act like it never happened.” I have however, been able to preserve a lot of it, and would like to formally add it to a canon record at some point.


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