jrandle8 wrote:According to Section 1.3 of the game rules, it specifically states that the discussion of any actions taken by Moderation concerning a player being sanctioned, warned, or any other such as banned, are forbidden and that such requests or questions regarding those actions are to be made privately to Moderation or Wouter, the game owner. This is followed by Section 5.2 and Section 5.3(d) that gives Moderators such right, and I am of course interpreting this as a judge would (welcome to my world...it sucks I know). While I wouldn't specifically use Section 5.3(d) in this case due to some minor language in the context that it is used, it would still apply.
jrandle8 wrote:According to Section 1.3 of the game rules, it specifically states that the discussion of any actions taken by Moderation concerning a player being sanctioned, warned, or any other such as banned, are forbidden and that such requests or questions regarding those actions are to be made privately to Moderation or to Wouter, the game owner. This is followed by Section 5.2 and Section 5.3(d) that gives Moderators such right, and I am of course interpreting this as a judge would (welcome to my world...it sucks I know). While I wouldn't specifically use Section 5.3(d) in this case due to some minor language in the context that it is used, it would still apply.
jrandle8 wrote:Chitin has college work and Vesica has a real job and kids to take care of. We can't continue looking at Moderation as if they're not real human beings with real lives. I know that's not what many of you think or believe but it seemsas if you want moderation to be at your beck and call 24/7. And I say all of this respectively.
jrandle8 wrote:I just don't think this comment is appropriate and that this action should be taken for two reasons; 1) It's your opinion (which you are entitled to) and we should not act on people's opinions, and 2) Players demanding moderators to resign does not end well for the player base. Trust me, I've seen what it could do.
jrandle8 wrote:But, thank you jellybean for raising this issue and allowing for public comments to be made. I truly respect you for it and those of you whose views are opposing to mine. I hope that my opinions, and presented facts from the rules, can be well-received as the other comments have been.
Pragma wrote:I'm starting to wonder if the problem is the people or the structure of the game. I feel like we have arguments like this regardless of who is moderator. Is it time for some pretty fundamental changes to the way the game is run? We have to do something to keep PT alive and I don't think blaming each other is the way to do it. That's not to say I think everyone shares equal responsibility for our current problems and feels like some individuals are particularly unwilling to act cooperatively. We can't make things better if it just becomes about getting rid of particular people. It hasn't mattered much in the past who is in or who's out. At various points in the past two years, I have thought that getting rid of Auditorii or Mr God or someone else as mod would solve our problems and it really didn't.
DueWizard70 wrote:Yes, this is indeed in the game rules, but as it happened with James's sudden 1-week ban and Rob's and Drax's RP being deleted with not much explanation from Moderation, there is little support for 1.3. I, for one, would support it being removed. Holding Moderation accountable (regardless of who is in the mod team) is important.
does no justice to the conversation at hand and honestly is xenophobic at best...respectively saying. I've been on the receiving end of such comments from people like kub and Aquinas before and honestly, it's not healthy. If you don't like playing "fairly" with people from another county, either 1) quit playing, or 2) Moderation should just suspend you, because it honestly make it seem as if its an American vs British thing, which it most certainly isn't. As soon as two people from North America were appointed to the Moderation Team, there has been many comments like the one Kubrick made. Luckily for guys like that, I'm not on the moderation team. I'm sure that if I was, I would be 100% effective as I am.
But, thank you jellybean for raising this issue and allowing for public comments to be made. I truly respect you for it and those of you whose views are opposing to mine. I hope that my opinions, and presented facts from the rules, can be well-received as the other comments have been.
jellybean wrote:I am confused as to why nobody should act on opinion. Any comment that could be made about Moderation, whether positive or negative, is an opinion.
jellybean wrote:I disagree with this rule. We've had this conversation before, when Moderation took the extremely unusual step of retconning RobMark and Drax's roleplay. They made the right decision then and eventually gave some clarification on why they had made the ruling (although I couldn't find the thread - probably just my error).
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