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Re: Feedback: Dynamic Rankings

Postby hyraemous » Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:47 pm

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Updated Hard Power, Soft Power, Criteria*
*Note: updated ranking criteria from the above post have not been updated in the forums/game information upon the release of rankings. Point allocations are as follows:

Economic
Very Strong (5)
Strong (4)
Average (3)
Weak (2)
Underdeveloped (1)


Hard Power
Global capabilities (5)
Regional capabilities (4)
Intermediate capabilities (3)
Local capabilities (2)
Limited capabilities (1)


Soft Power
Global influence (5)
Regional influence (4)
Intermediate influence (3)
Local influence (3)
Limited influence (1)


Ranking Categories and Assessment Criteria

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Great Power
Beiteynu (13), Strong Economy, Regional Capabilities, Global Influence
Dorvik (13), Strong Economy, Global Capabilities, Regional Influence
Lourenne (13), Strong Economy, Regional Capabilities, Global Influence

Regional Power
Dankuk (10), Strong Economy, Intermediate Capabilities, Intermediate Influence
Deltaria (10), Average Economy, Regional Capabilities, Intermediate Influence
Dundorf (10), Strong Economy, Local Capabilities, Regional Influence
Kalistan (10), Strong Economy, Intermediate Capabilities, Intermediate Influence
Luthori (10), Average Economy, Intermediate Capabilities, Regional Influence

Middle Power
Alduria (7), Average Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Baltusia (7), Average Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Cildania (7), Average Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Kazulia (7), Average Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Kundrati (8), Average Economy, Local Capabilities, Intermediate Influence
Hutori (7), Average Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Lodamun (9), Average Economy, Intermediate Capabilities, Intermediate Influence
North Dovani (7), Weak Economy, Intermediate Capabilities, Local Influence
Saridan (8), Average Economy, Intermediate Capabilities, Local Influence
Sekowo (7), Average Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Trigunia (7), Average Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Vanuku (7), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Intermediate Influence
Vascania (8), Average Economy, Local Capabilities, Intermediate Influence
Zardugal (8), Average Economy, Local Capabilities, Intermediate Influence

Small Power
Aldegar (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Aloria (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Badara (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Barmenistan (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Beluzia (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Cobura (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Davostag - Kivonia (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Dolgava (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Egelion (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Endralon (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Gaduridos (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Hobrazia (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Hulstria and Gao-soto (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Ikradon (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Istalia (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Istapali (4), Weak Economy, Limited Capabilities, Limited Influence
Jakania (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Jelbe (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Kafuristan (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Kalopia (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Kanjor (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Keymon (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Kimlien (4), Weak Economy, Limited Capabilities, Limited Influence
Kirlawa (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Kurageri (4), Weak Economy, Limited Capabilities, Limited Influence
Likatonia (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Liore (4), Weak Economy, Limited Capabilities, Limited Influence
Malivia (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Mordusia (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Narikaton and Darnussia (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
New Endralon and Kizenia (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Ostland (4), Weak Economy, Limited Capabilities, Limited Influence
Pontesi (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Rildanor (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Rutania (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Selucia (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Solentia (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Statrika (4), Weak Economy, Limited Capabilities, Limited Influence
Suyu Llaqta (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Telamon (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Tropica (5), Weak Economy, Limited Capabilities, Local Influence
Tukarali (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Valruzia (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Vorona (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence
Yingdala (6), Weak Economy, Local Capabilities, Local Influence

Limited Power
Bazgaristan (3), Underdeveloped Economy, Limited Capabilities, Limited Influence
Bianjie (3), Underdeveloped Economy, Limited Capabilities, Limited Influence
Hanzen (3), Underdeveloped Economy, Limited Capabilities, Limited Influence
Medina (3), Underdeveloped Economy, Limited Capabilities, Limited Influence
Midway (3), Underdeveloped Economy, Limited Capabilities, Limited Influence
Mina (3), Underdeveloped Economy, Limited Capabilities, Limited Influence
New Alduria (3), Underdeveloped Economy, Limited Capabilities, Limited Influence
New Englia (3), Underdeveloped Economy, Limited Capabilities, Limited Influence
New Verham (3), Underdeveloped Economy, Limited Capabilities, Limited Influence
Noumonde (3), Underdeveloped Economy, Limited Capabilities, Limited Influence
Ntoto (3), Underdeveloped Economy, Limited Capabilities, Limited Influence
Rapa Pile (2), Underdeveloped Economy, Limited Capabilities, Influence
Talmoria (3), Underdeveloped Economy, Limited Capabilities, Limited Influence
Telmaria (3), Underdeveloped Economy, Limited Capabilities, Limited Influence
Utari Mosir (3), Underdeveloped Economy, Limited Capabilities, Limited Influence
Utembo (3), Underdeveloped Economy, Limited Capabilities, Limited Influence

Typing on phone so sorry for huge quote. Any reason for Kundrati ranking? I would've thought we'd be a 9 or something given our recent development with Beiteynu and military/diplomacy work with neighbors and others...
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Re: Feedback: Dynamic Rankings

Postby Auditorii » Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:25 pm

As a note, I thank the RP Committee for handling the rankings. It is an enormous weight off Moderation’s shoulders when it comes to being impartial towards rankings and ensuring many eyes are watching RP.

On another side, I’d like to ask that both Mina and Bazgaristan be upgraded. While the frequency of the RP certainly isn’t as much as I’d like, they’ve been fairly active. Mina had fought and “won” a conflict in Nefa (something agreed upon with Chitin through his control of Liore and Kurageri), has been actively developing oil in the Sea of Carina and has played a role in condemning Bazgaristan’s actions in southern Dovani.

In Bazgaristan, it has been a focal point in southern Dovani’s rapid decline in stability and have an ongoing conflict (which has stalled since Gab’s sudden disappearance), but have otherwise been active with the nation overall.
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Re: Feedback: Dynamic Rankings

Postby Luis1p » Fri Nov 03, 2023 5:09 pm

hyraemous wrote:Typing on phone so sorry for huge quote. Any reason for Kundrati ranking? I would've thought we'd be a 9 or something given our recent development with Beiteynu and military/diplomacy work with neighbors and others...


Thanks for posting an inquiry, we appreciate your feedback. Our original assessment of Kundrati was at middle power with (8) points. However, with the introduction of our Soft/Hard Power criteria, it pushed us to reconsider new things when ranking each nation. The RPC reviewed and discussed Kundrati's recent RP and concluded on maintaining the Middle Power Ranking; however, Kundrati did not "regress" or "demote"--despite the red color.

We believed that Kundrati is heading in the right direction towards becoming a regional power, but they are not there yet, especially when compared to other regional powers such as Luthori. The RP in Kundrati is surface level. There is great foundational RP to justify Kundrati's economy and intermediate influence, but there hasn't been other significant RP to see the nation expand and be able to project its might regionally or abroad. There is still heavy reliance or greater states or RP fails to engage in further state-building.The RP is ideal for a middle power, but a regional power cannot be justified through the RP we've seen. We believe more can be done on many fronts of RP especially within the realms of authenticity and dynamism.

If you would like further comments from the RPC or have any questions, please feel free to ask. Thank you for your feedback.
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Re: Feedback: Dynamic Rankings

Postby imperialpearl » Fri Nov 03, 2023 5:57 pm

I'd like to know the reasoning behind Lodamun's "average economy" status. Thank you in advance.
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Re: Feedback: Dynamic Rankings

Postby Luis1p » Fri Nov 03, 2023 6:50 pm

imperialpearl wrote:I'd like to know the reasoning behind Lodamun's "average economy" status. Thank you in advance.


Thanks for posting an inquiry, we appreciate your feedback. Our assessment of Lodamun's economy led to us ranking it as an average economy due to the lower consistency and lack of economic reach compared to other nations. To put it short, the RP is excellent, but we think Lodamun would benefit from seeing more of it. The quality is there, but it needs to be more diversified and involved. Lodamun was difficult to rank due to it teetering between ranks and categories.

If you would like, you can inquire for Lodamun to be re-assessed by the Roleplay Committee and we'd be happy to look at it again. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.
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Re: Feedback: Dynamic Rankings

Postby Luis1p » Fri Nov 03, 2023 6:54 pm

Auditorii wrote:As a note, I thank the RP Committee for handling the rankings. It is an enormous weight off Moderation’s shoulders when it comes to being impartial towards rankings and ensuring many eyes are watching RP.

On another side, I’d like to ask that both Mina and Bazgaristan be upgraded. While the frequency of the RP certainly isn’t as much as I’d like, they’ve been fairly active. Mina had fought and “won” a conflict in Nefa (something agreed upon with Chitin through his control of Liore and Kurageri), has been actively developing oil in the Sea of Carina and has played a role in condemning Bazgaristan’s actions in southern Dovani.

In Bazgaristan, it has been a focal point in southern Dovani’s rapid decline in stability and have an ongoing conflict (which has stalled since Gab’s sudden disappearance), but have otherwise been active with the nation overall.


Thanks for posting an inquiry, we appreciate your feedback.

After a review of RP with the Roleplay Committee, Mina and Bazgaristan will both improve to "Weak economies". Mina will receive an additional increase in soft power to "local influence".Bazgaristan will receive an upgrade in hard power to "Local capabilities"
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Re: Feedback: Dynamic Rankings

Postby Auditorii » Fri Nov 03, 2023 7:32 pm

I appreciate the updates, I’d like to mention however that I think they should be somewhat equally ranked as both weak economies, local capabilities and local influence.

Mina has made considerable gains in a long occupied area, Nefa, (source) and has purchased military equipment from Deltaria with technical support from Deltaria. (source). In addition, Mina has taken the fight against radical Ahmadism in Dovani (including against Bazgaristan, a fellow Ahmadi nation.)

In Bazgaristan the development of a local arms industry centered around UAVs has become a powerful component of their armed forces; a nominally militarily weaker country using UAVs to boost its abilities it generally lacks. (source) I’d also advocate that Bazgaristan’s position proping up new, radical Ahmadist groups in southern Dovani has provided it with a greater influence. (source) (source) (source)
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Re: Feedback: Dynamic Rankings

Postby imperialpearl » Fri Nov 03, 2023 8:48 pm

Luis1p wrote:
imperialpearl wrote:I'd like to know the reasoning behind Lodamun's "average economy" status. Thank you in advance.


Thanks for posting an inquiry, we appreciate your feedback. Our assessment of Lodamun's economy led to us ranking it as an average economy due to the lower consistency and lack of economic reach compared to other nations. To put it short, the RP is excellent, but we think Lodamun would benefit from seeing more of it. The quality is there, but it needs to be more diversified and involved. Lodamun was difficult to rank due to it teetering between ranks and categories.

If you would like, you can inquire for Lodamun to be re-assessed by the Roleplay Committee and we'd be happy to look at it again. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.


I can agree with the sentiment made about a lack of economic reach. What I don't understand is the point made about consistency. Beyond that, I accept the rankings and once again literally thank you guys because whilst I don't use the rankings as the be-all and end-all, they help me gauge the scale of a nation's economy and better inform me on how to move in RP with certain states.
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Re: Feedback: Dynamic Rankings

Postby Luis1p » Sat Nov 04, 2023 2:46 pm

Auditorii wrote:I appreciate the updates, I’d like to mention however that I think they should be somewhat equally ranked as both weak economies, local capabilities and local influence.

Mina has made considerable gains in a long occupied area, Nefa, (source) and has purchased military equipment from Deltaria with technical support from Deltaria. (source). In addition, Mina has taken the fight against radical Ahmadism in Dovani (including against Bazgaristan, a fellow Ahmadi nation.)

In Bazgaristan the development of a local arms industry centered around UAVs has become a powerful component of their armed forces; a nominally militarily weaker country using UAVs to boost its abilities it generally lacks. (source) I’d also advocate that Bazgaristan’s position proping up new, radical Ahmadist groups in southern Dovani has provided it with a greater influence. (source) (source) (source)


Thanks for posting an inquiry, we appreciate your feedback. After extensive discussions with the RPC, we've decided to upgrade Bazgristan and Hanzen up to "Local Influence" due to the recent RP and activity in the region. We've decided to also upgrade Mina to "Local Capabilities". If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.
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Re: Feedback: Dynamic Rankings

Postby Rogue » Sat Nov 04, 2023 2:53 pm

Thanks for the updated rankings. Only note i have is could you guys rename Suyu Llaqta to Nsanlosa in the list? Thanks
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