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Re: French Presidential Election, 2017

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:08 pm
by Axxell
jamescfm wrote:
General.M wrote: You cant call the PVV fascists, conservatives, liberals, socialists or something else. I would just call them weird.

Perhaps not his party but you can certainly call him a fascist.


Yes off course, I gave reason to you that we can call him fascist given its xenophobic positions.
My fault, as italian I have a very specific vision of a fascist, and wilders is close most part only for the nationalistic and xenophobic policies, like Lega nord of Salvini: he is called fascist too, but not too often, most part are attacks from extreme left, ok, but we can't put him and his party among the parties of fascist tradition.

Re: French Presidential Election, 2017

PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:08 pm
by MichaelReilly
Can I just say, there are nine people on this forum, nine, who have explicitly expressed support for a fascist. If that doesn't worry you then there's something wrong.

Re: French Presidential Election, 2017

PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:52 pm
by Auditorii
MichaelReilly wrote:Can I just say, there are nine people on this forum, nine, who have explicitly expressed support for a fascist. If that doesn't worry you then there's something wrong.


Ain't nothing wrong with a little fascism!

Re: French Presidential Election, 2017

PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:54 pm
by Hrafn
Auditorii wrote:
MichaelReilly wrote:Can I just say, there are nine people on this forum, nine, who have explicitly expressed support for a fascist. If that doesn't worry you then there's something wrong.


Ain't nothing wrong with a little fascism!

Fascism is fun!

Re: French Presidential Election, 2017

PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:06 pm
by Aquinas
Hrafn wrote:
Auditorii wrote:
MichaelReilly wrote:Can I just say, there are nine people on this forum, nine, who have explicitly expressed support for a fascist. If that doesn't worry you then there's something wrong.


Ain't nothing wrong with a little fascism!

Fascism is fun!


In Particracy. Less so in RL.

Re: French Presidential Election, 2017

PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:08 pm
by Auditorii
Aquinas wrote:
In Particracy. Less so in RL.


Unfortunately the only people to blame for the rise of Fascist tendencies is the governments that have traditionally ignored corruption, issues of national identity, focused on building their own power and wealth.

Re: French Presidential Election, 2017

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:35 am
by jamescfm
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Re: French Presidential Election, 2017

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:36 am
by Polites
MichaelReilly wrote:Can I just say, there are nine people on this forum, nine, who have explicitly expressed support for a fascist. If that doesn't worry you then there's something wrong.


It's not particularly worrying or unusual. This is an online community that particularly attracts political nerds - the exact type of population that would be more likely to hold unusual/fringe/extreme political views. This is also the reason why we have a higher than average percentage of people with anarchist, communist, ultra-conservative, or fascist views, even though such political opinions are fairly rare in the population at large.

Re: French Presidential Election, 2017

PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:43 am
by Hrafn
Le Pen may become the first woman president of France. If you don't support Le Pen you are perpetuating the patriarchy.

Re: French Presidential Election, 2017

PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:31 pm
by TheTsar
I believe this is the best place to put it
Nationalism =/= right-wing
Look at me, a social democrat Russian nationalist!

On another note, Ukraine is a myth...
It is actually "Malorossia" or "Small Russia", the name Ukraine only appeared in the late 19th - early 20th centuries
The Byelorussians admit they are basically Russians with a different language. They have not invented a new cool name for themselves and stuck with Byelorussia, or "White Russia".
Also, the Eastern Slavs call Ukraine "Ukraina" (including the Malorossians themselves) If you separate the "u" from "kraina", it becomes the phrase "near the edge". Yes, the Malorossians called themselves the edge of the Greater Russian Empire! WE HAVE A RIGHT TO TAKE OVER THEM, WHATEVER THEY CALL THEMSELVES! MWAHAHAHAHA!

Originally, the modern territory of Russia as we know it now was called "Velikorossia", or Great Russia. No-one complained. Also, geographically Malorossia is larger that Ukraine. Although it did not include Crimea, it included bits of the Northern Caucasus around Rostov and also the lands to the east of Kharkov, i.e. Belgorod and Kursk. And after the German puppet state "State of Ukraine" was created after the treaty of Brest-Litovsk in 1918, Crimea was never included. It remained under German occupation until later on, when Baron Wrangel seized it as the Germans were pulling out after the Treaty of Versailles. Crimea was given to Ukraine during the USSR by Khrushchev in the 60s, and he was born in the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic! At that time the Crimeans did not care, since they were still part of a Greater Soviet Union. After the USSR collapsed, the Crimeans were happy, because the government were willing to grant Crimea autonomous status (despite Ukraine being a unitary state). However, after the Maidan revolution, the new government, first led by Turchynov and now Poroshenko, began to destroy everything to do with Russia within Ukraine, including banning all Russian TV channels, illegalising Russian in schools and other anti-Russian and Russian-speaking Ukrainians. This led to Crimea wanting to join its long lost elder sister, and the people voted in a referendum to join Russia.