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The Great Debaters

Postby PresMusharraf » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:55 am

This is an idea I had. Since we constantly debate and argue over things in this section (and in the game, we're politicians after all), why not have a little fun with this? I've come up with an idea to hold some sort of debate between two users (one who is for and one who is against on an issue) and have a good CIVIL debate. I will moderate. The only difference is that this sort of debating will be somewhat like your debate team, except instead of number of minutes, you get a certain limit of words. At the end of the debate, I will choose who I think DEBATED the best and then state my opinion on the issue for full discolsure. No one except the two debaters will be allowed to post an opinion until I have declared a winner (or a draw). From then on, the debate can continue, but without my moderation. Each debate is limited to 9 posts each (this includes an opening statement and closing statement).

FOR EXAMPLE:

Question: Was it ethical for the U.S. to use the atom bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki during World War II?

Yay-sayer: Yes, it is obvious that the United States did the right thing by using nuclear weapons on Hiroshima and Nagasaki during World War II. After the battles on major Japanese islands, including Okinawa, the U.S. had suffered major casualties. By invading the island of Japan instead of simply using the atom bomb on these two cities, the total number of casualties on BOTH sides was dramatically reduced since Japan surrendered before further military engagement was commenced. As President Truman said, "You can do your weeping at Pearl Harbor."

Nay-sayer: No, the U.S. should have never used the Atom Bomb. While some of us may toot our own horns and point to how the use of the bombs ended World War II, we forget that our use of the bomb stained our record as upholders of liberty and humane treatment not just then, but even today. The use of the atomic bomb did not weaken the Japanese military, it MURDERED innocent civilians who may have had no opinion on Japan's role in World War II. It is a shock that today we call for the denuclearization of other nations when we were the first to use this technology to achieve our selfish goals.

Yay-sayer: (Responds to points made by Nay-Sayer)
Nay-sayer: (Can respond to points made by Yay-sayer in Opening Statement or in most recent comments)
6 more rounds.
Closing Statements.

PRESMUSHARRAF'S VERDICT:
Blank-sayer won the round of debating this time. His wise use of historical events and how they were directly related to the subject helped make his case stronger. Even though his opponent did bring up some interesting points, it was difficult to tell how they were directly related to the question.

PRESMUSHARRAF'S VIEW:
The United States of America should never have even dreamed of using the Atomic Bomb. President Truman may have considered the weapon to be a military asset, and, therefore, free game, but he seemed to have little consideration for the impact it would have on Japan and on the United States. Japan lost many innocent people due to the bombing, and the U.S. appeared corrupt in their actions as they would use all resources necessary for victory (even nuclear annihilation of an entire metropolis). It is no wonder Iran and North Korea boldly move forward to nuclearization when we once acted like they are now.


Who's up to the challenge? We will discuss light-hearted and strong-hearted topics. We will always need two people on opposite sides (or one who is willing to play devil's advocate and challenge himself to lie through his teeth). Here is the first question.

QUESTION: Should the U.S. involve Iran and Syria in its attempts to stabalize Iraq?

Remember, we need one yay-sayer and one nay-sayer.
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Re: The Great Debaters

Postby Mr.Yankees » Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:32 am

Why don't you allow a player to challenge another player given that the challenger already knows the stance of the challenged. Of course, a good debater will always be able to debate either side but challenges can make it more interesting.
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Re: The Great Debaters

Postby YankeeHater » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:40 pm

I will debate Mr. Yankees anytime... unless he's chicken.
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Re: The Great Debaters

Postby PresMusharraf » Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:03 pm

Mr.Yankees wrote:Why don't you allow a player to challenge another player given that the challenger already knows the stance of the challenged. Of course, a good debater will always be able to debate either side but challenges can make it more interesting.

That's perfectly fine. And would be a very good way to encourage this style of debate. (I'm sure there's something you and YankeeHater can debate about in this format. If there is, just list the question, and we'll begin.)
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Re: The Great Debaters

Postby YankeeHater » Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:36 am

I can argue about anything. Mr. Yankees may choose the topic.
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Re: The Great Debaters

Postby bucsfan47 » Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:18 pm

I want to debate the winner of Mr.Yanks and Yankhater, IF they do debate, if not ill debate whoever lol.
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Re: The Great Debaters

Postby PresMusharraf » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:17 am

YankeeHater wrote:I can argue about anything. Mr. Yankees may choose the topic.

Topic Selected: Are the New York Yankees in league with the Sith Lord?
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Re: The Great Debaters

Postby YankeeHater » Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:21 am

If the New York Yankees were aligned with a sith lord, they would've won a few world series in the past ten years or so, so no they are not in league with a sith.
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Re: The Great Debaters

Postby A Socialist » Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:41 pm

Interesting, I would be willing to debate some people if they wanted.
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Re: The Great Debaters

Postby bucsfan47 » Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:04 pm

A Socialist wrote:Interesting, I would be willing to debate some people if they wanted.



Ill debate you, if PresM gives us a topic.
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