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Re: Particracy Player Profiles

Postby Hrafn » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:20 pm

SelucianCrusader wrote:Arkona (Аркона)

They're awesome!
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Re: Particracy Player Profiles

Postby MichaelReilly » Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:11 am

Zanz wrote:
Kubrick wrote:Think that would count as a light case of xenophobia, because you don't know what foreigners he's referring to. Personally I think all Germans should be sent back to Germany.


This thread almost prompted me to start another, but I didn't because I rarely feel the urge to dive into off topic - is xenophobia always racist?


What? A thread on the Particracy forum going off topic? Never...
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Re: Particracy Player Profiles

Postby Autokrator15 » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:38 am

MichaelReilly wrote:
Autokrator15 wrote:2. Social-conservative? Cant blame you with all those freaking foreigners. Simply didnt know it existed in Sweden.


Is casual racism just accepted as the norm on this forum now?


casual racism? Are you accusing me of discriminating people on bases of race?! A bit short sighted of you and I love how you are triggered you remind me of my nation back 20 years ago when the problems of the multicultural nonesens couldnt be discussed and where foreigners werent seen as a problem. Also if we arent allowed to - within reason ofcourse - discuss our ideas and opinions then how are we going to learn from eachother if we al make PC and progressive statements?

And to specify, I think foreigners are a problem yes, I think that we allow too much foreigners with lacking education, unneeded skill sets and backwards ideas into our countries. Also the mass immigration and the expendential population growth of minorities is severely worrying me. The idea of immigration is that these people come and live here and addept through integration to our ways of life and slowly fade out of existance through assimilation and becomming one with our society. That isnt happening. They are going to replace us if the current rates keep up and the damned leftist appologists also wish to keep all these aslymseekers here. I dont know about you but i'm quite fond of my culture and I like it not to revert to some backwards religious state where homosexuals and women cant go out and be treated as equals thank you very much.

SelucianCrusader wrote:Oh, there are many conservatives here of varying flavours. Actually, the Swedish left is kind of like a walking dead, at least right now. If the polls are to be trusted, the next election will be a competition between our equivalents of your VVD and PVV (sort of), having 50-55% of the vote together (and there's a small Christian democratic party in parliament as well). This government kind of brought this upon themselves by their handling of the refugee crisis.

Actually a reason why the Social democrats could keep power for such a long time (and does now) is because they constructed the rules to be in favour of the biggest party, who can form a government without having a majority behind them. Only a plurality over any other bloc is needed. That's why ol' Göran Persson (our Tony Blair) could rule with a purely Social democratic cabinet when I was a kid, even when the Social democrats were down to 36% of the vote.

Swedish people aren't liberal in general. Quite a few might think of their intolerance as “progressive”, but Scandinavian people are notoriously conformist and hate when people go outside the norm or show strong feelings. Nor are our laws really liberal. Come here and try to smoke pot like in your country or buy a prostitute and enjoy your stay in one of our prisons. In Sweden there's no limit on how long you can be detained btw, so make sure to really enjoy our outsourced prison meals. :D

Yeah, I converted when I was in my young teens. I began the process when I was 14 and took first communion when I was 16. We Catholics are around 2%, most are immigrants from central and southern Europe though. Sweden has a visible catholic heritage any way, with local saints decorating coat of arms and so on, we were all Catholic for over 500 years after all. The Church of Sweden is very funny. It's a church ruled by elected politicians (it's governance is dictated by law). Every four years they hold Church elections with political parties. It's like the “progressive” version of lack of separation between church and state. :mrgreen:

Hahaha, well basically I enjoy rock music with ethnic themes. When I wrote that, I was thinking about Arkona (Аркона) if you know about them.


Sweden might not be liberal but it sure as hel is socialist. Your social welfare state and government interference in the market is idioticly big. You need some privatisation ala Thatcher and Reagan style 8-). Oh and about your catholicism, we'll cure you of your heresy soon enough, Ill make you a ten commandments abiding Calvinist (Yes, you are breaking the laws of God by worshipping your idols :ugeek: )
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Re: Particracy Player Profiles

Postby MichaelReilly » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:49 am

Autokrator15 wrote:
MichaelReilly wrote:
Autokrator15 wrote:2. Social-conservative? Cant blame you with all those freaking foreigners. Simply didnt know it existed in Sweden.


Is casual racism just accepted as the norm on this forum now?


casual racism? Are you accusing me of discriminating people on bases of race?! A bit short sighted of you and I love how you are triggered you remind me of my nation back 20 years ago when the problems of the multicultural nonesens couldnt be discussed and where foreigners werent seen as a problem. Also if we arent allowed to - within reason ofcourse - discuss our ideas and opinions then how are we going to learn from eachother if we al make PC and progressive statements?

And to specify, I think foreigners are a problem yes, I think that we allow too much foreigners with lacking education, unneeded skill sets and backwards ideas into our countries. Also the mass immigration and the expendential population growth of minorities is severely worrying me. The idea of immigration is that these people come and live here and addept through integration to our ways of life and slowly fade out of existance through assimilation and becomming one with our society. That isnt happening. They are going to replace us if the current rates keep up and the damned leftist appologists also wish to keep all these aslymseekers here. I dont know about you but i'm quite fond of my culture and I like it not to revert to some backwards religious state where homosexuals and women cant go out and be treated as equals thank you very much.


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Re: Particracy Player Profiles

Postby Autokrator15 » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:03 am

MichaelReilly wrote:
Gotcha. You're a racist.


:lol: Good that we had this conversation, i'm glad that you find my worry concerning the lack of integration amongst immigrants an appalling idea and that you have seen right through my racist nature for trying to preserve the western ideals in the most liberal country on the planet is ofcourse idiotic. Thank you showing me the light of ignorance ;)

Now on a serious side note, not all foreigners are bad. But alot of them who havnt integrated are costing alot money and arent doing a damned thing. Let me give you a statistic: 90% of all Somali people in the Netherlands is on welfare which they have contributed 0 towards. Now that is just plain unfair and shows that their skills and education are inediquate for this nation and thus they should go somewhere else.
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Re: Particracy Player Profiles

Postby SelucianCrusader » Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:44 pm

Autokrator15 wrote:
SelucianCrusader wrote:Oh, there are many conservatives here of varying flavours. Actually, the Swedish left is kind of like a walking dead, at least right now. If the polls are to be trusted, the next election will be a competition between our equivalents of your VVD and PVV (sort of), having 50-55% of the vote together (and there's a small Christian democratic party in parliament as well). This government kind of brought this upon themselves by their handling of the refugee crisis.

Actually a reason why the Social democrats could keep power for such a long time (and does now) is because they constructed the rules to be in favour of the biggest party, who can form a government without having a majority behind them. Only a plurality over any other bloc is needed. That's why ol' Göran Persson (our Tony Blair) could rule with a purely Social democratic cabinet when I was a kid, even when the Social democrats were down to 36% of the vote.

Swedish people aren't liberal in general. Quite a few might think of their intolerance as “progressive”, but Scandinavian people are notoriously conformist and hate when people go outside the norm or show strong feelings. Nor are our laws really liberal. Come here and try to smoke pot like in your country or buy a prostitute and enjoy your stay in one of our prisons. In Sweden there's no limit on how long you can be detained btw, so make sure to really enjoy our outsourced prison meals. :D

Yeah, I converted when I was in my young teens. I began the process when I was 14 and took first communion when I was 16. We Catholics are around 2%, most are immigrants from central and southern Europe though. Sweden has a visible catholic heritage any way, with local saints decorating coat of arms and so on, we were all Catholic for over 500 years after all. The Church of Sweden is very funny. It's a church ruled by elected politicians (it's governance is dictated by law). Every four years they hold Church elections with political parties. It's like the “progressive” version of lack of separation between church and state. :mrgreen:

Hahaha, well basically I enjoy rock music with ethnic themes. When I wrote that, I was thinking about Arkona (Аркона) if you know about them.


Sweden might not be liberal but it sure as hel is socialist. Your social welfare state and government interference in the market is idioticly big. You need some privatisation ala Thatcher and Reagan style 8-). Oh and about your catholicism, we'll cure you of your heresy soon enough, Ill make you a ten commandments abiding Calvinist (Yes, you are breaking the laws of God by worshipping your idols :ugeek: )
Sweden is more corporatist than socialist. Welfare services are mostly a mix of public and private. It's called kundvalsmodellen ("the customer's choice model") and basically means that you're worth a sum of public money that you can spend at a public or private institution of your choice. AFAIK, my country is the only country in the world where one can actually make profits from fully subsidized elementary schools.

The legend of mega-socialist Sweden comes from Sweden in the 80's when the Social democrats pushed for giving labour unions control of businesses, which was a hugely unpopular idea (guess who controlled the unions?). A lot has changed since then. I have a cousin who lives in Northern Ireland were health care is actually free. Last time I had to go to the doctor, it costed about 20$. In some ways, the American welfare system might even be slightly more benign since they have food stamps. Here the only people who get free food (and housing, TV, internet) are the.. you know.. It creates a legitimate resent among quite a few people when some people don't get proper health care, and people can't feel safe outside.
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Re: Particracy Player Profiles

Postby MichaelReilly » Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:37 pm

If you're gonna be racist, at least don't use bullshit, made-up 'statistics' to justify it.
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Re: Particracy Player Profiles

Postby Autokrator15 » Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:28 pm

MichaelReilly wrote:If you're gonna be racist, at least don't use bullshit, made-up 'statistics' to justify it.


http://www.volkskrant.nl/binnenland/lov ... s~a665913/
http://helseliefde.nl/loverboys

Vaak zijn loverboys van allochtone afkomst. 89% van de daders is een allochtone Nederlander 37% van de daders is Nederlander van Marokkaanse afkomst.

This says that human trafficers are mostly foreigners. 89% of them to be precise of which 37% are Morrocans.

I admit I had it wrong on the exact number on those on welfare, im sorry for that racist comment, its not 90% its 70%:
http://www.cbs.nl/nl-NL/menu/themas/arb ... jstand.htm

I do not make up statistics.. I read them and then draw my conclusion upon them.
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Re: Particracy Player Profiles

Postby soysauce » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:02 pm

Autokrator15 wrote:
MichaelReilly wrote:If you're gonna be racist, at least don't use bullshit, made-up 'statistics' to justify it.


http://www.volkskrant.nl/binnenland/lov ... s~a665913/
http://helseliefde.nl/loverboys

Vaak zijn loverboys van allochtone afkomst. 89% van de daders is een allochtone Nederlander 37% van de daders is Nederlander van Marokkaanse afkomst.

This says that human trafficers are mostly foreigners. 89% of them to be precise of which 37% are Morrocans.

I admit I had it wrong on the exact number on those on welfare, im sorry for that racist comment, its not 90% its 70%:
http://www.cbs.nl/nl-NL/menu/themas/arb ... jstand.htm

I do not make up statistics.. I read them and then draw my conclusion upon them.

You're still an arse tho...

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Re: Particracy Player Profiles

Postby Kubrick » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:29 pm

Silly sources? The statistics and calculations of the CBS basically drive the entire Dutch government. Wouldn't call them silly.
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