British Politics and Scottish Independence

[Siggon Kristov]

Your icon Gaddafi is the product of Arab conquest of the Maghreb peoples, which is a perfect example of the extremely complicated two-way assimilation over centuries that is much more common than cultural genocide.

My icon?

I actually agree with you about councils having more power (if that's what you mean; local government in the UK is a mess in my opinion and needs reform), and England having its own parliament.

No; I'm talking about Scottish parliament and Welsh parliament, not local government in terms of mayors and councillors.

I'd prefer to see it like the USA, but I think the supporters of "Scottish independence" are more for either a republic.
Doing it like Canada or Jamaica would be in the middle.

Even the SNP - who used to want a republic and literally orgasm over the prospect of 'President Alex Salmond' - have said that they'd keep the Queen, although I read something ridiculous today which said that the Church of Scotland would require a monarch to be crowned in Scotland too if it became independent.

I guess they forgot what the "United Kingdom" and the Union Jack were all about.

I think it would be best for Scotland to keep the monarch as head of state (I think a majority of people in Scotland like the monarchy than dislike).
Significant countries like Australia and Canada have kept the monarchy as head of state and its worked well for them so I think it'd be in Scotland's interests.
However, there are probably some people in Scotland who'd like to see it do a 'Republic of Ireland' and ditch the monarchy and leave the Commonwealth.

Well, if that's what they want, let them have it I guess

Jamaica is another matter, isn't it going down the road to republicanism?

Yes, but when I mentioned it here, I was referring to the changes in 1962 where it became independent (independent government, but still under the crown).

[Afrocentric]

Afrocentric, I am part Choctaw and I bloody well would not mind sending all of you immigrants back to your own continents.

Well hold up, I didn't come here on my own and I damn sure don't want to go back to Africa. I like it here in the USA.

[Afrocentric]

Is there any chance Northern Ireland pulls out all together and merges with the Republic of Ireland?

[EgeDoruk]

I think, Northern Ireland should cede from UK and found it own nation, Ulster but that would put them in a very hard situation for a couple decades, especially economically.

[SelucianCrusader]

I support Northern Irish reunion with Ireland. The current situation is a product of colonialism and oppression, makes no sense, and Catholics will become the majority in 2016, thanks to a much higher birth rate than protestants. Belfast and Derry are now Catholic-majority cities. But it's not a question of religion, as far as I know there is no problem with being a protestant in Ireland or a catholic in the UK. Those Scots and Englishmen who can't stand the thought of becoming Irish citizens can leave for Britain.

[SelucianCrusader]

I'd like to read the source where you got your info about Catholicism becoming the biggest religion in Northern Ireland.
To be honest, I think Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland are becoming used to the now peaceful status quo.

This blog: http://www.turbulenceahead.com/2010/03/ ... -2016.html

This source claims that'll be in 2021: http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Future ... 08451.html

Well, wouldn't it be better if the protestant supremacist groups stopped having those parades every year, celebrating the conquest?

[EgeDoruk]

I support Northern Irish reunion with Ireland. The current situation is a product of colonialism and oppression, makes no sense, and Catholics will become the majority in 2016, thanks to a much higher birth rate than protestants. Belfast and Derry are now Catholic-majority cities. But it's not a question of religion, as far as I know there is no problem with being a protestant in Ireland or a catholic in the UK. Those Scots and Englishmen who can't stand the thought of becoming Irish citizens can leave for Britain.

I'd like to read the source where you got your info about Catholicism becoming the biggest religion in Northern Ireland.
To be honest, I think Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland are becoming used to the now peaceful status quo.

http://www.ninis2.nisra.gov.uk/Download ... S218NI.XLS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography ... rn_Ireland
If you count whole protestant as a single denomination than they are bigger but if you don't than Catholics are the biggest

[EEL123]

Just give the Northern Irish a referendum every now and then and we can sort the matter out.

[EgeDoruk]

Just give the Northern Irish a referendum every now and then and we can sort the matter out.

Referandum until NI joins Ireland is dull and expensive. What if after joining Ireland, NI wants to return UK

[EEL123]

I'm not sure if there's a 'matter' to sort out, apart from a few people on here and a few Catholics wanting to see a utopian united Ireland.

Well, there is a significant minority wanting union with Ireland. I'd say at least a quarter. So yes, there is an issue.